Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 > We can't just stand idly by. It turns my stomach to think about what > those boys may have to go through. I'm amazed you can even raise your head from the toilet bowl long enough to speak, thinking about the fact that every second of the day a child is being molested or a woman is being raped or beaten on this planet. The unique contribution of Srila Prabhupada is that he showed us how to once and for all end this suffering and go back to Godhead. You don't seem to have much interest in that, though, but are only too delighted to wallow in the filth of the material world. I resent your constant insinuations that those who don't jump on your bandwagon are uncaring, hard hearted and uninformed. If you actually cared about the abused children of ISKCON as much as you claim to, you'd try to promote Krishna consciousness instead of the values of the modern demoniac society with it's twisted, sentimental values. Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur said that there are no material solutions to material problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 At 02:51 PM 2/18/02 -0500, Dgovinda (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: >I think a letter-writing campaign is a very good idea. As far as where to >write, that's a question of strategy that needs to be determined by the >organizers of the campaign. I could look in the APVC files and let you know >the addresses to which the APVC sent the official decisions. That would be great. Thank you! >For >example, to send letters to the local police precinct in the province of the >orphanage(s) may seem like a reasonable idea, but they might just throw the >letters in the bin and not take them seriously. Good point, although we probably should send them copies too. Maybe it would be more likely to get their attention if we let them know that we've written to representatives of the media as well as to politicians and funders. They may not care about the boys, but they may be concerned about their reputation... >Perhaps the letters should be >sent to the Prime Ministers of India and England, expressing outrage that >they financially sponsor and allow to exist such an operation, managed by the >alleged child abusers (I am using the term "alleged" because they haven't >been convicted in government courts). Yes! Great ideas! >It might also be a good idea to send >letters to various media sources, such as the British newspaper that printed >a very favorable article about Manihar's orphanage, and emphasized the fact >that he receives support from Prince Charles. Perhaps the Prince would >reconsider his support for the orphanage if he received a few hundred >letters. Absolutely. Also, didn't the BBC just do a program on gurukula abuse? Maybe we could find out the name of that reporter? We can't just stand idly by. It turns my stomach to think about what those boys may have to go through. Ys, Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Jahnu (das) (Byron Bay - AU) wrote: > I resent your constant insinuations that those who don't jump on your > bandwagon are uncaring, hard hearted and uninformed. If you actually > cared about the abused children of ISKCON as much as you claim to, > you'd try to promote Krishna consciousness instead of the values of > the modern demoniac society with it's twisted, sentimental values. > Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur said that there are no material > solutions to material problems. > There seems to be no need to make personal judgements here, but Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saradsvati Thakura gave his following observation, which has often helped me to choose my associations more wisely (Shri Chaitanya's Teachings, pgs. 22-23): "Worldly people possess a double nature. They express one kind of sentiment but internally cherish a different purpose. Moreover they want to advertise this duplicity as a mark of liberalism or love of harmony. Those who are unwilling to show any duplicity, wish to be frank and straightforward, or in other words exercise unambiguously the function of the soul; such really sincere persons are called sectarian and orthodox by those who practise duplicity. We will cultivate the society only of those who are straightforward. We will not keep company with anyone who is not so. We must by all means avoid bad company. We are advised to keep at a distance of a hundred cubits from animals of the horned species. We should observe similar caution in regard to all insincere persons." Mukunda Datta dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 Keep these wheels turning. Bravo. CAP (AT) pamho (DOT) net [CAP (AT) pamho (DOT) net] On Behalf Of Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley, CA - USA) Monday, February 18, 2002 1:42 PM CAP (Child Abuse Prevention) Cc: GBC Unmoderated; India (Continental Committee) Open (Forum); Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN) Re: Ananta Rupa At 02:51 PM 2/18/02 -0500, Dgovinda (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: >I think a letter-writing campaign is a very good idea. As far as where to >write, that's a question of strategy that needs to be determined by the >organizers of the campaign. I could look in the APVC files and let you know >the addresses to which the APVC sent the official decisions. That would be great. Thank you! >For >example, to send letters to the local police precinct in the province of the >orphanage(s) may seem like a reasonable idea, but they might just throw the >letters in the bin and not take them seriously. Good point, although we probably should send them copies too. Maybe it would be more likely to get their attention if we let them know that we've written to representatives of the media as well as to politicians and funders. They may not care about the boys, but they may be concerned about their reputation... >Perhaps the letters should be >sent to the Prime Ministers of India and England, expressing outrage that >they financially sponsor and allow to exist such an operation, managed by the >alleged child abusers (I am using the term "alleged" because they haven't >been convicted in government courts). Yes! Great ideas! >It might also be a good idea to send >letters to various media sources, such as the British newspaper that printed >a very favorable article about Manihar's orphanage, and emphasized the fact >that he receives support from Prince Charles. Perhaps the Prince would >reconsider his support for the orphanage if he received a few hundred >letters. Absolutely. Also, didn't the BBC just do a program on gurukula abuse? Maybe we could find out the name of that reporter? We can't just stand idly by. It turns my stomach to think about what those boys may have to go through. Ys, Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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