Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 Mataji, PAMHO AGTSP The three points you quoted were not in the letter (8730148) I sent according to my wincom account. I now realize that two almost similar letters were sent on the same topic to ICC when I intended to send only one (8730314). One was supposed to have been deleted and the other was intended as my reply. The one with the three points you quoted was the one that was supposedly deleted, but appears to have been sent in error. The other text 8730314 stands as my reply to you and 8730148 is hereby retracted. My apologies for the malfunction of an aborted send mail that went into pending send mail. Then I edited it and deleted it and created the new text. Since it was already assigned a number perhaps it was sent the next login as it was already uploaded to wincom? I wish you and your friends well. I do not demand perfection from anyone as a basis of my cooperating with them for serving Srila Prabhupada's mission, only sincerity. I am sure that a person can be sincere AND be misinformed at the same time, as well as, be sincere AND make mistakes. Lucky for us all Lord Krishna thinks the same way. I genuinely take you and all other devotees as sincere, however much we might disagree on what constitutes the facts of any given dispute, and despite whatever underhanded tactics an opposing party might resort to in order to win an argument. Take care. Hare Krishna. P.S. Oddly enough when I do a search on #8730148, this is what I show on my wincome application (essentially the content of 8730314). Maybe a SYSOP can look into this and explain how this is possible that what was sent and what is recorded in my client application is not the same matter? (What I show as text (8730148) copied and pasted from my wincom application) >Are you completely unaware that everyone in India knows of the politics of >Delhi temple? I've heard nothing good about this person who appointed you, >so I wouldn't get too carried away with that 'recommendation'. You seriously need to question the motives of your sources if this is all you have to say. That you have heard nothing good about Mahamantra Prabhu is sad. Don't you question people who have no basic level of appreciation for even their enemies? I recall Mahamantra Prabhu regularly pointing out the good points of even those who were clearly envious of him. Doesn't appreciation distinguish material association from spiritual? >Is this the same person who had 3 karmi, female, meat eating fashion > >designers on the altar in Delhi last year just so he could get his face in >the paper? Again your facts are terribly twisted. The three top 10 fashion designers of India are all vegetarians, Hindus, and one is married to a Brajabasi and worships Krishna at home. The other two practice yoga and meditation and felt so honored to be asked to make dresses for all 6 sets of Deities at their own expense. They implemented strict cleanliness standards in their studios while making the dresses under the guidance and direction a one designer's Brajabasi mother-in-law, and required everyone to chant and be pure vegetarian while working on the project. Who gave you this misleading information? These fashion designers got the higher taste of rendering service and offered to make more dresses for the Deities. Unfortunately the politics against Mahamantra Prabhu disturbed their service this year and if they are not welcome in ISKCON then there are 5000 other temples in Vrindavan that will be willing to engage these sincere souls. I only pray to Radharani that they never read this destructive poison-post of yours. They were never allowed on the altar. Where do you get this? Do you seriously expect the devotee community to believe that any ISKCON head pujari would allow uninitiated persons on the altar (except for essential specialists for construction worker, etc)? You and your sources have lost all credibility with this one. My assistant promotions director personally escorted them the entire time they were in the temple. They were allowed to see sample Deity dresses in an area where devotee matajis are also allowed so that they could get an idea of what Sri-Sri Radha-Parthasarathi Ji's style is and of course to make the essential pattern for their dresses. Mahamantra Prabhu had no desire to get his face in the paper, nor did he make any endeavor for that. I called the national press conference and they took photos of the temple president with the designers. Do you honestly have a problem with that? >Who was the genius behind that self promotional nightmare? The entire blame can fall on me since I took the initiative, as Lord Krishna's promo agent, to generate some media celebrity hype for Him. At least our TP, GBC, and temple devotees expressed his gratitude and appreciation for our dept's efforts. One of our promotions team members knew these designers and I requested them to approach the designers and they agreed. The major credit goes to their good relationship with these designers and the designers favorable pre-disposition to Lord Krishna. I would characterize it rather as a "Super-Soul promotional windfall". The results speak for themselves: 1) over 30 newspaper articles showing pictures of the Deities and inviting people to the temple. 2) Major prime time coverage on EVERY major news channel in India and all local channels before and during the event. 3) International feature story on CNN. 4) Featured in-flight news coverage (CNN clip) on every British Airways flight WORLDWIDE for the entire month of September showing Sri-Sri Radha-Parthasarathi Ji. 5) We negotiated free television commercial ad space of five minutes of spot ads daily for one year on several television channels for the rights to broadcast the "Deity's designer dress". Star TV requested exclusive international broadcasting rights as well. 6) Live National coverage on Ajjtak all day long on Janmastami day showing the crowds, chanting, etc of ISKCON New Delhi (beating out ISKCON Bombay for the first time 7) According to temple authorities the Janmastami attendance that year was DOUBLE that of the previous year, which is an unheard of phenominal increase. 8) Free pre-Janmastami advertising of the event on most local cable channels. 9) The media really got excited with the idea that you could do this! I wanted to promote the idea that you don't have to live in the temple to serve Lord Krishna directly by your occupation. 10) Relations with the media became so positive after this. Indian's were feeling good about Bhakti and Lord Krishna became more relevant, hip, and attractive in the minds of most. It was the talk of the town for weeks if not months. 11) The Deities got a set of really beautiful clothes. In detail it was more like a night dress than a day dress due to the limited notice they had. 12) Two competing designer firms actually cooperated on this without any rivalry. One did the dress for the female Deities and the small Deities, and one for the male (humans and Vanara). 13) Just after the coverage Hindustan Times HT City editor listed Lord Krishna in the top ten of "What's Cool" because of His new designer dress. All told, several hundreds of thousands of (US$) dollars in free global publicity for ISKCON New Delhi according to the opinion of one New Delhi public relations firm. It was all the mercy of Srimati Radharani who wanted to glorify Her Krishna. >Devotee women >who are initiated brahmins cannot go on an altar in India, >but for >Mahaman's profile and to promote himself, these 3 non devotee, >meat eating >women could. Okay sounds like you have some unresolved issues with not being invited on the altars in India? My Guru Mata was on the altar requested by the leaders of ISKCON Mayapur. When I was on the altar in Mayapur the head pujaris would allow matajis to go on the altar as well. Go figure. Maybe there is hope? I am not very happy about that either. I would like you to be able to go on the altar. Maybe someday, Despite the clearly slanted version of events you are privy to, Mahamantra showed extremely great restraint for not having exercised the powers, influence and options at his disposal. If you knew the actual events and circumstances, I am sure you would take an entirely different view of Mahamantra Prabhu who has expressed so much appreciation for your guru maharaja and who helped him in many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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