Guest guest Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 ------------------For Readers of the ICC Open Forum----------------- I personally don't wish to continue this discussion about the Australian mataji and the eyebrow-raising efforts to cover it all up, other than to point out to whoever is still following this thread: 1) that the deprival of the Australian Mataji's medication was only one of 6 different simultaneous life-threatening conditions our delegation identified. I am saving the other five for the investigators, as I am sure it will evoke yet another time consuming barrage of emails from those who would rather we not "poke our nose" into this pitiable matter and who have gone to such obnoxious extremes to try to intimidate and silence our delegation's findings. If you want the full report please contact me privately, 2) We have a GBC Body and and Executive Committee to determine our general policies and to correct leaders who are in error when they make mistakes. That we have an RGB and ISKCON Bureau in ISKCON to resolve issues is clearly not enough to rely on, as Mahmantra Prabhu's case has proven to at least my satisfaction. This I suggest is partially due to the conflicts of interest that tend to breed over time regionally and thus skew and reduce the quality of judgments that regional leaders like the RGB and ISKCON Bureau have demonstrated they are capable of producing. I don't think it directly says anything bad about the people on the RGB or Bureau, but more about the natural conflicts of interest inherent in the positions they hold and have held. While the RGB decisions reportedly served some member's political agendas and personal vendettas in Mahamantra Prabhu's case, they certainly did not serve the greater interests of ISKCON, and any impartial judge of events, would I trust, conclude the same as the GBC EC apparently has. Mahamantra's positive support of the GBC EC has proven his worth as an ISKCON leader with international influence and value beyond the scope of the RGB to evaluate. All this appears to reinforce the 2004 GBC briefing I read by Sesa Prabhu about our ISKCON Judicial System which appears to be at a stand-still. Functionally our GBCs are more like legislaters and police ("policy makers" and "policy enforcers"- with more of the former than the later) than impartial judges. If we are to become a truly alternative society then we certainly need a competent judicial system that is not embroiled in management and political issues like GBCs and TPs undeniably are. We can't refuse to have a functional alternative judicial system AND expect devotees to not take advantage of the karmi judicial system (especially high-court criminal advocates from Bombay whose appetite for justice is certainly greater than the average devotee). Mahamantra Prabhu is a professional lawyer from Bombay, a very high-profile, very well-known and is very favorably connected to leaders at all levels of Indian society AND THEY ARE ALL WATCHING HOW ISKCON HAS TREATED HIM, WHO IS "ONE OF THEM". I have not met one person who has felt he was fairly treated, and certainly we have paid a stiff price for that in terms of their enthusiasm, trust and interest to cooperate with ISKCON in the future. Braja-bihari and other's efforts to implement the Ombuds and Mediation system are two great steps forward, and I guess our judicial system would function as a type of binding arbitration and is the logical 3rd step. All three ADR options are clearly needed. That the RGB is ISKCON India's only alternative to India's legal system is not satisfactory in my humble opinion. There are too many "policy people", too much history, too many factions, too many vendettas, and too many personal agendas for ISKCON to assure that the RGB is going to be able to serve justice to any acceptable quality standard. These are people, some with lots of money, lots of power, and lots to win and lose, and not the profile one would want to ordinarily see in an impartial judge. I suggest we would want to see humble and learned brahmanas who are completely aloof from management and politics, and preferably with a legal background (lawyers, judges, etc). I don't find that on the RGB, by and large, with all due respect. Let the RGB be the prosecutors and the police if it is determined that the RGB is needed (some are questioning its legitimacy), but form some other body to administer the justice and do ISKCON devotees in India a real service. I also suggest we appoint judges that do not have a political/management history, at least in the region where they serve. Dasanudasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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