Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 You can't be serious?! How long did it take to "research" this subject, and why? I actually can't imagine wasting the amount of time it would take to look up all these links and read through the viewpoints of some opinionated materialists who think they've hit on something worthwhile. Anyway, whatever "floats your boat" as they say... Meanwhile, thankfully there are other men in ISKCON who can deal with women compassionately and encourage them in a loving and nurturing environment to abandon their previous conditioning--which, correct me if I'm wrong, is what we are ALL meant to be doing (?) Perhaps one way they do that is by example: that is, abandoning their *own* previous conditioning, and becoming exemplary men. As my Scottish grandmother used to sing, "I'll take the high road and you take the low road, and I'll be in Scotland before ye..." Your servant Braja Sevaki dd > > The following link leads to an article called the "Marriage Strike" that > spells out pretty much why American men don't want to marry American > women. > > http://www.mattweeks.com/strike.htm > > Excerpt: > "Take a hypothetical husband who marries and has two children. There is a > 50 percent likelihood that this marriage will end in divorce within eight > years, and if it does, the odds are 2-1 it will be the wife who initiates > the divorce. It may not matter that the man was a decent husband. The > reality of the situation is that few divorces are initiated over abuse or > because the man has already abandoned the family. Nor is adultery cited as > a factor by divorcing women appreciably more than by divorcing men. > > "The new trend that has taken hold of the court system is what are known > as the "no fault" divorce, in which the filing party needs only to cite > their general discontent with the marriage in order to be granted a > hearing. Women initiate these unilateral divorces-on-demand 3 times as > often as men. "While the courts may grant the former spouses joint legal > custody, the odds are nearly 40 to 1 of the wife winning physical custody. > Overnight, the husband, accustomed to seeing his kids every day and being > an integral part of their lives, will now be lucky if he is allowed to see > them even one day out of the week. > > "Once the couple is divorced, odds are at least even that the wife will > interfere with the husband's visitation rights. Three-quarters of divorced > men surveyed say their ex-wives have interfered with their visitation, and > 40 percent of mothers studied admitted that they had done so, and that > they had generally acted out of spite or in order to punish their exes. > > > > The following three links relate to a series of articles by Donna > Laframboise published in The National Post. They explain what it means for > a man to be raped in the divorce courts of Canada. > > http://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0003/np000325.htm > > http://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0003/np000327.htm > > http://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0003/np000328.htm > > > The following excerpt tells you the stories told in the above articles: > > "Today, and on Monday and Tuesday, the National Post will tell you the > stories of fathers who have been driven to suicide by a system deaf to > their pleas. We'll introduce you to a man who is still paying child > support for a 23-year-old employed daughter. We'll tell you about an > executive with take-home pay of $7,455 a month who is left with $302 after > handing over child support and alimony to his ex-wife." > > > All the above articles and many more like them are archived at > > http://www.fact.on.ca/news/news0003.htm > > > The following link discusses the growing tide of adulterous women in the > USA. > > http://siddhanta.com/archives/culture/000066.html > > Excerpt: > > "The cover story of this week's issue of Newsweek Magazine focuses on > extra-marital affairs among American women--how many married women have > them, why they have them and how they have them. This is important for us > in ISKCON to be aware of because on the periphery of ISKCON, these are > some of the kinds of women we preach to. This also gives us notice of some > of the increasingly negative cultural traits new devotee women bring with > them to ISKCON and which can create further imbalance for themselves, > their families, and the greater ISKCON community." > > > > This final link addresses the general anti-male tone of modern Western > culture, which is being exported: > > http://www.mcgill.ca/reporter/34/05/misandry/ > > Excerpt: > "Popular Culture's War on Men" > > "Misogyny is an attitude that nobody in his or her right mind would seek > to defend, and popular culture takes a misogynist stance at its own peril. > Not so, misandry. It is perfectly acceptable -- indeed, common -- to > portray men in misandric terms as violent, vulgar, insensitive boors, > argue Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young in their provocative new book, > Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture > (McGill-Queen's University Press)." > > "Their research, which will eventually fill three volumes, is the result > of 15 years of discussions between them about gender and its complex role > in society and inter-sexual relations." > > > > No, actually, it's not...what you're asking us to believe is that all > > these men "tried to do the right thing," but somehow or other they all > > attracted absolute witches who saw to it that they were "raped in the > > divorce courts", so I'm wondering what kind of men repeatedly attract > > such low class women who only wish to make their life a misery and drag > > them through court? > > What kind of men? American men. What kind of women? American women. But > actually this could be said of men and women in most of the Western world. > > >Bottom line is, everyone gets what they deserve in > > life---that is after all our philosophy--- > > Is this also applicable to women in "abusive" relationships and abused > children? Or, is it only men who are not deserving of sympathy, whereas > women and children are the victims (of men). > > Yours in the service of my eternal master Srila Prabhupada, > > Shyamasundara Dasa > > www.ShyamasundaraDasa.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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