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> > > Janeshevara Prabhu your questions are answered in the text where SP

> > > writes that we should take advantage of both pancharatrika vidhi &

> > > bhagavat viddhi.

> >

 

> > So, obviously adjustments have been made. I do not have a problem with

> > that so long as it is done in a bonafide fashion based upon the

> > overriding principle of Bhagavata-vidhi. Lord Caitanya did this when

> > there was a problem with the Pancharatrika-vidhi regulations of

> > grihasta-brahmana initiation. He wanted everyone who was a Vaisnava to

> > give initiation because it was Bhagavat-vidhi and overrode the

> > Pancharatrika-vidhi.

>

> ???

>

> In SP's writings he never discounted/rejected the pancharatrika-vidhi. He

> has indeed recommended it strongly.

 

"A person may be a brähmana, a sannyäsi, a sudra or whatever, but if he is

well conversant in the science of Krsna, he can become a guru." (Cc. Madhya

8.128) This statement is supported by Sri Mädhavendra Puri. According to the

pancarätra injunction, only a householder brähmana can initiate. Others

cannot. When a person is initiated, it is assumed that he has become a

brähmana; without being initiated by a proper brähmana, one cannot be

converted into a brähmana. In other words, unless one is a brähmana, he

cannot

make another a brähmana. A grhastha-brähmana partaking of the varnasrama-

dharma institution can secure various types of paraphernalia to worship Lord

Visnu through his honest labor. Actually, people beg to be initiated by

these

householder brähmanas just to become successful in the varnäsrama

institution or to become free from material desires. It is therefore

necessary for a spiritual master in the grhastha-äsrama to be a strict

Vaisnava. A spiritual master from the sannyäsa order has very little

opportunity to perform arcana, Deity worship, but when one accepts a

spiritual master from the transcendental sannyäsis, the principle of Deity

worship is not at all neglected. To implement this conclusion, Sri Caitanya

Mahäprabhu gave us His opinion in the verse kibä vipra kibä nyäsi, etc.

 

 

This indicates that the Lord understood the weakness of society in its

maintaining that only a grhastha-brähmana should be a spiritual master.

 

 

Sri Caitanya Mahäprabhu indicated that it does not matter whether the

spiritual master is a grhastha (householder), a sannyäsi or even a

sudra. A spiritual master simply must be conversant in the essence of the

sastra; he must understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Only then can

one become a spiritual master. Diksa actually means initiating a disciple

with transcendental knowledge by which he becomes freed from all material

contamination. CC Mad. 4.111

 

ys,

Jd