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>We are both now very busy with the case, but gave you extra time since you

>only came late in. We may not be able to reply so much over the next few

>weeks, but we are debating your great mahajan Ajamila shortly on CHAKRA.

>

>We do feel however that you would be well advised to study more closely our

>position before writing any more, since it seems you are only raising

>points that were specifically dealt with some time ago. Respectfully,

 

Dear prabhus.

 

PAMHO AGTSP

 

Thankyou for your investment of time. I appreciate you trying to explain

your position. I apologise if it seems that I have not understood your

position. It's no problem if you cannot continue. I am happy to leave it

to other devotees to debate with you. I still don't think you have

understood my point about pariksha, how am I understanding the CC verse and

4.34, but no problem, you clearly have a different understanding and I don't

think we are going to agree.

 

I understand that you feel that no one in ISKCON is authorised to give

diksha, which I suppose is another way of saying that no one is qualified,

because if they were qualified then they would be authorised, no?

 

As I have stated, I don't accept your interpretation of the July 9 letter.

My point about letters, citing the 1972 example, was simply that they are

not necessarily absolute instructions meant for all times and circumstances.

As far as I know, by 1977, in Prabhupada's presence, the details of the 1972

letter had changed, things were being done differently, and he was happy

with it. But maybe I am wrong about that as I was not around at the time.

 

Anyway, good luck with your arguments. I'm still surprised that you have

chosen to go to court. If we are arguing about the meaning of Vaishnava

sastra then I would have thought a group of senior Vaishnavas would be a

better idea than some judge. But maybe he is a pandit of some sort, I don't

know.

 

As far as I am concerned, I feel that any of Prabhupada's disciples have his

order to be guru, siksha and diksha, provided they meet the other sastric

requirments. As a preacher I can't see how things will go on if we do not

allow devotees to act as guru to the people they are trying to help. To me

that really does seem absurd. Preacher means guru and vice versa. That is

our business.

 

So I shall carry on trying to do my little bit out here. Regrettably I have

to say that I shall pray that your case fails, as I think my conscience

would impel me to review my position as an ISKCON representative if the

system of ritvik was insitituted, and initiations stopped.

 

Your humble servant

Krishna Dharma das.