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> I agree it wasn't tactful to openly come out and talk about expelling them

> when there was no way to practically do so. But on principle, I agree that

> those who are stubbornly philosophically deviant, and antagonistic to wit,

> should be expelled.

>

> Frankly, I used to have sympathy for ritvikism (never PADA style) because

> I felt it was in some ways closer to where we should be at: putting ®r…la

> Prabhup€da in the center, not having overblown gurus who get blown away by

> maya, etc.

>

> However, my experience is that, the more you know the ritviks, the less

> you like them. Their teachings and tactics kill bhakti and turn devotees

> into offensive monsters. Therefore I also agree with HS and BG Prabhus

> about the insidiousness of the ritviks, which I don't need to further

> re-iterate here.

>

> I agree with you that more philosophical understanding of guru-tattva is

> required rather than simply propping up a diksa system. Your insights in

> this regard are appreciated, at least by me. Any guru must feel himself a

> representative of the parampara; therefore the debate over "diksa guru" or

> "siksa ritvik" is in some ways semantical only.

>

> Which brings us to the point that, more than a philosophical struggle,

> this is one for power--for the soul of ISKCON.

>

> Although as aware as anyone else of the insufficiencies, failings and

> sometimes outright deviations of the GBC, I'm throwing in my lot with the

> them, with the hope of ongoing reform in the right direction. If the

> ritviks come in, no hope of anything auspicious.

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