Guest guest Posted May 28, 1999 Report Share Posted May 28, 1999 Dear Kesava Bharati Prabhu, Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! It was nice to hear from you. Thank you for the nice pramana about chanting. Perhaps you have misunderstood something I wrote. I didn't mean to minimize the importance of any of the processes of bhakti which we commonly practice in ISKCON. They are all supported by guru sadhu and sastra. The primary point I was making was that, technically speaking, the holy name is not given to us at the time of initiation as one of the five samskaras. What is given is a specific combination of the holy names, called a mantra, and receiving that mantra is one of the five samskaras. At first initiation it is the Hare Krishna Mahamantra, and we hear that mantra chanted by the guru and also receive beads on which he has chanted that mantra. So the only statement you make that I have any comment on is: > The holy name is enough by Himself only for liberated souls. I understand your point, but consider the example of Ajamila: He was certainly not liberated and the holy name was sufficient to liberate him! And he only chanted namabhasa, what to speak of the pure name! Is it not so? The holy name is effective even without initiation, without beads, without giving up sinful life. If one takes shelter of the holy name even without a guru then the holy name will supply whatever one needs for spiritual development, including a guru, beads, and the impetus to give up sinful life! To take your statement at face value would mean that the holy name is less powerful than one's conditioning. I hope this is OK. Your servant, Bhaktarupa Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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