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> > But you avoided my question & are attempting to steer a discussion that

> > was in progress on pancharatrika vidhi in another direction.

>

>

> OK. I'm sorry. What would you like me to admit to about

> pancharatrika-vidhi?

 

Honestly I'm not trying to play a "game" of "oneupsmanship" here. The point

I wanted to make was that Srila Prabhupada & SBSST had adopted/accepted the

pancharatrika vidhi, which we know from ISKCON history and SP's books & in

that regard there are many quotations to be had from the SP Folio & the

books directly. Simple.

 

> > > Would you join in the effort to promote Srila Prabhupada's orders to

> > > implement varnasrama? Surely you know current leaders with influence.

> >

> > First I'd like to see the "practical proposals" in this regard, before

> > agreeing to get involved in a "new cause". I think that's fair

> > enough.

>

> That is excellent and a lot more than I've heard from the leaders.

>

> First, I would suggest you re-read Srila Prabhupada's detailed

> instructions on varnasrama-dharma given in March '74 during his morning

> walks and also the full conversation with Hari Sauri Prabhu on Valentine's

> Day 1977. Both of these are the most important instructions Srila

> PRabhupada ever gave on varnasrama-dharma for the movement, (in my

> opinion, again.)

 

OK. That's reasonable enough. Since my conversation books & Folio are in

India & I'm out of India at the moment, it'll have to wait until I return.

 

> After that, you may find interest in some proposals of our godbrother

> Pancharatna Prabhu which he submitted (without response) to the GBC and

> which elaborates on some very practical concepts for instituting

> varnasrama-dharma in the movement.

 

Yes. Where are they available? Maybe it's already in my computer in

WinCOM; could you post the text numbers here?

 

> > And here on these conferences; at least at the moment, I opine that we

> > ought not shift the focus of the discussion. On the basis of time,

> > place & circumstance.

>

>

> I apologize for taking advantage of the opportunity, but I am not very

> interested in discussing anything but varnasrama-dharma. When someone

> boldly states how we should be following Srila Prabhupada's orders about

> pancharatrika, diksa, or this or that but completely neglects to mention

> varnasrama-dharma, which in my humble opinion, was by far the more

> important consideration of Srila Prabhupada, then one can expect a whole

> big load of goodies from me.

 

There are many orders from SP and it's a little unreasonable to expect that

we can discuss many of them simultaneously for several reasons; and the

reason at least in the present case is that the discussion was focused on

the specific instructions regarding pancharatrika vidhi - which admittedly

deal mainly with Deity worship. But nonetheless were instituted by SP.