Adri's an addicted cognitive distortionist

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> Dear Ajamila Prabhu, Please accept my humble obeisances. All

> Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

>

> > > "From the absolute perspective physical contact is not

> > > required, we need only to "follow the process" to get back

> > > to Godhead. Diksa initiation formalises our connection

> > > with the parampara. But that formality alone will not get

> > > us back to

> > > Godhead. Only by following the process of chanting Hare

> > > Krishna offenselessly will one get back to Godhead."

> > > (His Grace Ajamila Dasa Adhikari, 22/5/99, Text

> > > COM:2336806)

> >

> > I stand by my words again derived from Srila Prabhupada's

> > books. Again, not even a hint of ritvikism there.

> > Formalising one's link with the parampara is a must, but

> > that alone cannot get one back to Godhead. This is what any

> > "philosophicaly healthy" Vaisnava would have understood from

> > my text.

>

> It is interesting to note that you have not actually been able

> to ANSWER any of the points - only respond with your usual

> insults ('I am dreaming' etc.). And that is not surprising

> since even in the one and only line here that you have made an

> attempt to actually deal with the CONTENT of what you said you

> contradict yourself.

 

Who is issuing insult: You disobey Srila Prabhupada's

instruction not to go to court and I advise you to obey Srila

Prabhupada?

 

Ari you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all

of the time.

 

> You said:

>

> "From the absolute perspective physical contact is not

> required, we need only to "follow the process" to get back to

> Godhead."

 

This is stated in C.C. Look it up.

 

> Then you said:

>

> "Formalising one's link with the parampara is a must, but that

> alone cannot get one back to Godhead."

>

> How can something simultaneously be both 'not required' and 'a

> must'?

 

The clear essential point from the C.C. verse demonstrates the

power of offenseless chanting of the holy name, referring to

your "not required" query. And diksa to receive the holy name is

'a must' is confirmed by Srila Prabhupada's instructions and the

unbroken example in our line that diksa is ALWAYS taken from a

'living diksa guru'. There is no exception to this disciplic

law. Your idea ritvik is a disturbing concoction.

 

> You have definitely trapped yourself here

 

Dream on.

 

> just as the GBC have

> with these resolutions.

 

Dream on.

 

> And don't forget, you will be forever

> trapped, and stuck in the ritvik camp, since you have also

> just said "I stand by my words again derived from Srila

> Prabhupada's books"

 

More day dreaming.

 

Since you have said that these statements

> are derived from Srila Prabhupada's books, they are obviously

> applicable to all the followers of ISKCON for the next 10,000

> years, since they come from the 'lawbooks'.

>

> > Are you not Kali's disciple? Nay, sorry for the offense.

> > Disciple of his disciple, Desai.

>

> I see the pressure of this paper has obviously got to you,

> since you have already backed down from stating that I am

> disciple of kali, and downgraded it to being someone else's

> disciple. With more pressure, your downgrading may continue,

> and I may end up again as a devotee!

 

Your intimidation tactics may work on less experienced devotees

but not with the wise. Devotees are waking up to you fast.

 

> You are going to have to face up to the fact that these

> statements of yours are going to haunt you for years to come.

>

> By saying that:

>

> 1) Physical contact is NOT required;

 

Particularly after you have taken diksa from a living guru.

 

> 2) and Srila Prabhupada gives us all the divya jnana for the

> next 10,000 years;

 

Everyone accepts that Srila Prabhupada is everyone's siksa guru,

you are either missing the point or trying to make a nuisance

of yourself. Which is it?

 

> YOU are responsible for having given everyone a perfect RECIPE

> for accepting ritvik, and rejecting the current guru system.

 

Now your "cognitive distortions" are becoming even more silly

and more and more educated devotees are simply laughing at your

arguments. You imply that the GBC said something erronous but

you never DEMONstrate THEIR error. You create a straw man GBC

error and flog it to bits while we all sit back and laugh

hysterically.

 

> If Srila Prabhuada alone is giving us everything, and

> 'physical contact is NOT required', then obviously there is no

> absolute requirement for the current gurus in ISKCON, and the

> ritviks are right since Srila Prabhupada alone can take us

> back to godhead, since he gives us all the divya-jnana we

> need. Thank you very much Ajamila prabhu. We will be

> presenting these two statements from you as our tools to

> convince everyone. Just these two statements from you are

> enough to convince anyone of the case for ritvik. Yes you are

> potent - though not in the way you thought! Ajamila prabhu ki

> jai!

 

When you present your statements of mine and the GBC's

statements no one takes it seriously because of your diseased

"cognitive distortion" physcological condition which you

DEMONstrate every time you post a text is becoming clearer and

clearer.

 

> And they have picked YOU for the debate. That will be great -

> but how can it be a 'debate' when you already agree with us!

 

I don't blame the GBC for not wanting to talk to ranting

cognitive distortionists. You are right I am lower than the

lowest. I was not "picked" to debate with you, this is a

completely independent excercise. I just believe the GBC have

got it right on the ritvik issue and you have got it completely

wrong, and I don't want our ISKCON devotees to get deviated by

your dangerous concoctions.

 

If you are scared of my telling the truth you can always back

down.

 

> It will interesting to note if you can respond to these points

> with anymore that the usual insults of 'nonsense, concoction,

> dreaming' etc., and whether or not you can actually answer

> these points head on.

 

You insult Prabhupada by taking ISKCON to court when Prabhupada

says only a disciple of Kali would do such a thing, you concoct

a bogus post-samadhi ritvik system, you DREAM that your

arguments are evidence so the only thing I can do is keep trying

to wake you up to these facts as will be revelaed in the debate.

 

> Ys, Adri

 

ys

 

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