no difference between siksa and diksa guru again

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Dear senior vaisnavas, dear GBC followers.

PAMHO. All glories to the GBC. All glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga. AGTSP.

In the other text I am sending the quotes where one can see that Srila

Prabhupada didn't go against the other previous acaryas and the vedic

scriptures, but was also talking of a living guru, and wanted his disciples

therefore to be next diksa gurus.

 

Since the Rtvikvadis try always to escape with all the trics. They try to

speculate that the spiritual master means only siksa and therefore Srila

Prabhupada wanted them only to be siksa gurus, and he should have

established himself as an posthumous guru, inspite that this is not given by

any previous teachings.

 

Let us just read what Srila Prabhupada is saying:

Adi-lila: Chapter One, Text 48

Personality of Godhead. There is no difference between the shelter-giving

Supreme Lord and the initiating and instructing spiritual masters. If one

foolishly discriminates between them, he commits an offense in the discharge

of devotional service.

 

 

Prabhupada's Lectures Nectar of Devotion 1972

So Krsna is within as caitya-guru, and when we are serious He comes out as

the spiritual master. Siksa-guru, diksa-guru. So there is no difference

between siksa-guru and diksa-guru and Krsna. Krsna manifests Himself

externally as siksa-guru and diksa-guru.

 

 

Letter to Nayan Abhiram 2/04/71

They cannot be separated but must go together as parallel lines. SIKSA and

DIKSA. Siksa means learning. Diksa, or initation means the beginning of

spiritual realization.

 

 

Madhya-lila: Chapter Eight, Text 129 65171/1

The word guru is equally applicable to the vartma-pradarsaka-guru,

siksa-guru and diksa-guru.

 

Srimad-Bhagavatam Canto 4: Chapter Twelve, Text 32

According to sastric injunctions, there is no difference between siksa-guru

and diksa-guru, and generally the siksa-guru later on becomes the

diksa-guru.

 

SO SRILA PRABHUPADA NEVER REFERED GURU AS TO MEAN SOMETIMES ONLY SIKSA AND

SOMETIMES ONLY DIKSA.

 

By the Lords mercy this living guru parampara was going since time

immemorial and will go on henceforward.

See next text for quotations that a guru is a living person and not a

posthumous one.

 

YHS

Damana Krsna das Br.