Guest guest Posted July 9, 1999 Report Share Posted July 9, 1999 > >"Srila Prabhupada failed." > >He failed to produce a single qualified pure devotee capable >of giving the sufficient and required spiritual inspiration to >the rest of ISCKON "orphans". He failed of leaving behind himself >qualified disciples capable of carrying on the mission. Thus the >rtviks say "Therefore rtvik" and the others say "Therefore Narayana >Maharaja". > Well done Mahanidhi prahhu.Nicely pointed out.Prabhupada gave us everything and we do NOT need the Gaudiya math as Shrila prabhu is saying.They are no better off and in fact were considerered to have deviated by Shrila prabhupada.That's why he started ISKCON. By the way,I have a whole load of files about the Gadiya math and certain persons who we are supposed to "need", which are VERY interesting.Anybody interested to read them can request me personally for them.They are indeed EYE-OPENERS let me tell you! your servant and cousin, Nitaicandra das. ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 1999 Report Share Posted July 11, 1999 > > Furthermore, we know that many senior disciples of gurus WHO ARE NOT > > (yet) considered "FALLEN" are losing faith that their gurus are > > competent enough to lead them across the ocean of material existence. Ananta Vasudeva, who was the right hand man of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, lost faith in BSST that he was bona fide. But that had nothing to do with the guru, but everything with himself. This is a silly argument. > >> Let's graft > >> the ISKCON branch back onto the Gaudiya tree before it falls away > >> completely > > our sampradaya *is* gaudiya samparadaya. we are not disconnected. ISKCON is definitely a branch of the Caitanya tree as described in Adi-lila. Prabhupada never stated that ISKCON will get disconnected if we don't associate with his Godbrothers, etc. Rather he stated that if we continue trying to fulfill his mission, which is actually the very mission of BSST and BVT and Rupa Goswami, we will certainly go back to Godhead and help others do the same. Regarding "Society consciousness": In the Lilamrita, there is an incident where Prabhupada met (I think) CR Rajagopalachari in South Indian who asked him why his disciples are focusing so much on the institution ISKCON and Prabhupada himself stated that because ISKCON was Krsna's institution, thinking of ISKCON is equivalent to thinking of Krsna. In his Tenth Canto commentary, Prabhupada reveals that ISKCON is a manifestation of Lord Krsna Himself. Regarding Mother Madhusudani's point: Part of that mission is to properly take care of devotees who have approached Prabhupada for shelter. If we don't take care of them properly, then Prabhupada will obviously be very displeased with us. YHS VGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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