Guest guest Posted August 11, 1999 Report Share Posted August 11, 1999 > ©1999 VNN > EDITORIAL > > August 9, 1999 > > The Devotee Abuser Now Abuses His Guru > ----------------------------- > ---------- > BY ANTARDWIP DAS > EDITORIAL, Aug 9 (VNN) Ñ Dear Anuttma prabhu, You write (and > thanks for writing): > "Sri Antardwipa Das suggests that Adridharan and Madhu Pandit > Prabhus step out of ISKCON if they are "unhappy" with the > system of initiations currently practised in ISKCON. " > "And don't tread the path laid by the "qualified disciples" - > removing sincere & honest devotees -- the real followers, from > Prabhupada's home, it will serve you no good purpose. Gone are > the days when you could manipulate the devotees, beat them up, > remove them from temples and brainwash them." > Adri is no victim of anyone, and far from being thrown out of > ISKCON, he is throwing Srila Prabhupada's entire society out > of Calcutta Temple with his present court action. Adri is the > one who is being harsh on ISKCON. Adri deals harshly with > everyone, and despite many changes of GBC to try to > accommodate him, no GBC has yet been able to develop a working > relationship with him. And still he has been kept on as > President - so where is harsh ISKCON? To those under him OR > above him he demands total compliance and throws out anyone > who - not just challenges him - but just is not his sold-out > supporter, into the street. As an example, he once got the > hired outside guard to throw a vaishnava I know well, into the > street (down two flights of stairs) just because he was > chanting his rounds instead of being in class - honestly, it's > true. There are dozens of sad stories of abuse like this, > especially with the Bengali vaishnavas. The Bengalis used to > make a rather racist joke saying Adri being a Sindhi, when he > dies, five vultures take birth, he is so heartless. The > western devotees used to say that Adri interprets humility and > tolerence in vaishnavas to mean he can exploit and abuse > vaishnavas. > These claims of harsh treatment by persons like Adri (or other > leaders) are like the wolf creating chaos in the hen house, > jumping outside and saying "Look what a mess the hens have > made!". Many of our harshest leaders, on leaving, claim that > ISKCON is harsh, actually ISKCON is gentler for their absence, > not vice versa. Of harsh leaders, Adri certainly is a leader. > You say gone are the days "when you could manipulate the > devotees... sincere and honest devotees..., beat them up, > remove them from temples and brainwash them." This is a good > description of your Adri in the past and nowadays, why do you > say those days are gone, if you want him to stay in ISKCON? > Adri, by going to the Calcutta Courts has taken his > enviousness to a new level and shown that the ritviks don't > care even if they break Srila Prabhupada's heart to achieve > their aims. The ritviks have taken over where the zonal > acharya system left off in trying to dismantle the ISKCON > family. > You say "Srila Prabhupada did not give any instruction (known > to us at present) to stop that system of initiation upon his > departure" - so: 1: Where did Srila Prabhupada take back his > instruction that the GBC were the authority in ISKCON? So why > don't you follow that? > 2: Where did Srila Prabhupada retract his statement that only > a disciple of Kali would use the courts to decide spiritual > conflicts? So why don't you follow that? > 3: Srila Prabhupada said he wanted "All my disciples to become > spiritual masters" Prabhupada NEVER contradicted himself in > philosophical matters. Srila Prabhupada was always > philosophically consistent, and the perfect understanding of > his having ritvik priests to conduct initiations was that it > was a system adopted to initiate disciples in his last months > when he couldn't initiate personally, and when etiquette > prevented his disciples to take disciples during his manifest > presence. Now he has left, etiquette allows them to initiate. > That's it. And now everything he has said about his disciples > taking disciples was not a mistake of his, as ritviks claim, > but still stands. > Even though some disciples have failed as spiritual masters, > others are doing fine. Still, we aim to improve our society > and fulfill Srila Prabhupada's desires to the point that ALL > his disciples will become the compotent spiritual masters > Srila Prabhupada wanted and that his followers deserve. > Because Srila Prabhupada's potency is that great. I don't > think Adri will make better Srila Prabhupada disciples than > Srila Prabhupada himself made. And why he would want to make > more Srila Prabhupada disciples beats me, because he thinks > the Calcutta Court has more spiritual knowledge! Perhaps he > should get people to take initiation from Calcutta lawyers, > no? Where's his logic? In his wallet, perhaps. > Again, thank you for your reply, > Antardwip das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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