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> > Actually Srila Prabhupada changed from 64 to 16 rounds - is this

> > changing of system or not? question same as above.

>

> In Gaudiya Math also, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta presribed 16 rounds for

> preachers and 64 rounds for those who don't preach. (I think this is in

> the book Bhakti Vikasa Swami is preparing on BSST). So Prabhupada actually

> did'nt change anything. He applied the preaching standards of Gaudiya Math

> into ISKCON. And if one still considers it a change then one has to note

> Prabhupada explicitly explained this change in his books as a concession

> because the Western devotees cannot concentrate for longer periods on

> their beads.

>

> > But what if God ask his pure devotee to do it and you don't know it?

>

> But the pure devotee is saying that the sastra cannot be changed. What

> about that?

>

> [...]

> Nothing changed. But in every sloka he has given evidence from the Vedas,

> from the Upanisads. Acarya will NEVER change.

> [...]

>

> SP during interview with Professors

> O'Connell, Motilal and Shivaram

> June 18, 1976, Toronto

>

> (Please take note of the word 'NEVER'. Never means never.)

>

> Srila Prabhupada: Nothing can be changed. But according to the time, you

> have to apply the principles properly. For instance, in Kali-yuga the

> smrti order is kirtanad eva krsnasya mukta-sangah param vrajet: to obtain

> spiritual liberation, one must chant the holy name of the Lord, Hare

> Krsna. So you have to do this. For instance, a doctor may order, "In the

> morning, take this medicine; in the evening, take that medicine." It is

> not a change of the doctor's orders. It is simply that according to the

> time, the doctor's orders call for a particular medicine. But the

> particular medicine is recommended by the doctor, not by your whims. Sruti

> and smrti cannot be changed, but they may recommend a particular process

> at a particular time. So there must be adherence to both sruti and

> smrti-to scriptural authority. You cannot modify.

>

> Civilization & Transcendance

>

> The chanting of atleast 16 rounds prescribed by Srila Prabhupada can be

> understood from the above paragraph that it is not a change but the acarya

> just teaches us how to apply the already exsisting sastric principles

> properly according to time, place & circumstances. For example the change

> would have been if Prabhupada would have changed the mantra or something

> like that.

>

> > and you don't know it?

>

> There is no question of not knowing. Incase a bonafide acarya in a very

> very rare case does something different from the sastra either he

> explicitly explains why he did it or the sastra explains that. Like for

> eg.

> Sankaracarya brought out the wrong conclusion of the sastras 'asat

> sastram' but that is explained in the Padma Purana (Uttara Khanda 25.7 &

> 62.31) that he did it on the instructions of Visnu and we know the reason

> why did Visnu tell him to do it.

>

> Your servant,

> Nayana-ranjana Dasa

 

Thank you for excelent comment, but it was not my point.

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