Haram Haram! What do you mean Krishna is not svarat?

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>I do not know why KK prabhu has missed such a simple & basic principle of

>Krsna consciousness and is giving arguments against this principle. The

>principle is that the potency of the Holy Name depends on the level of

>purity & realization of the chanter. There are hundreds of quotes of Srila

>Prabhupada on this.

>

You ask, "I do not know why. . .", etc. "Hundreds of quotes?" What you may

be interpreting as a "quote" that supports your opinion, is not necessarily

so.

 

yathagadas viryatamam upayuktas yadrcchaya

ajanato ’py atma-gunas kuryan mantro ’py udahrtah

 

"If a person unaware of the effective potency of a certain medicine takes

that medicine or is forced to take it, it will act even without his

knowledge because its potency does not depend on the patient’s

understanding. Similarly, even though one does not know the value of

chanting the holy name of the Lord, if one chants knowingly or unknowingly,

the chanting will be very effective." (SB 6.2.19)

 

[from the purport] "One may or may not know the value of chanting the Hare

Krsna mantra, but if one somehow or other chants it, he will immediately be

purified, just as one who takes a potent medicine will feel its effects,

regardless of whether he takes it knowingly or unknowingly."

 

Of course, we do not deny that hearing the chanting of a great soul is

efficacious, but at the same time, Krishna is also independent, and He can

act as he pleases:

 

Prabhupada: A wild boar. So when the boar attacked him the Musselmans, when

they do not like they say, “Haram. Haram.” Condemn means haram. So when the

boar attacked him he said haram. “Haram!” But it acted, ha räma, and he got

salvation. Do you follow what I say? A Mussulman said, ’ha ram. Ha ram He

condemned. It is abominable. That is the meaning of Urdu, haram. But at the

time of death, when the boar attacked him, he said, “Haram.” So it acted ha

rama. Ha, he räma. It acted, chanting the name of Rama, Hare Rama. He meant

something else, but it acted as beneficial as chanting He rama. So therefore

this Hare Krsna mantra, either you chant seriously, or those who are

criticizing us, jokingly, the effect will be same. So anyway let them chant

Hare Krsna. Do you follow? Even they do not take it seriously, if they

imitate, joke, still they’ll be benefited . (Conversation, August 15, 1971,

London)

 

If the Musselman did not get the holy name from the lips of a pure devotee,

then how did he get liberation?

 

Conclusion, Krishna is independent, sva-rat. Even though sometimes Krishna

was bound by the love of his great devotees to stay with them, He also acted

independently, too, and left them against their wishes. Similarly, the holy

name may be bound to manifest from his pure devotees, but Krishna's holy

names, being identical with Krishna Himself, can also act independently.