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> >>Vyasadeva falls in the category of empowered

> >>jiva-tattva. Anyone can confirm this from sastra?

>

> In a SP letter to Jayadvaita:

>

> (If you wanna take this as absolute, it's up to you. I do.)

>

>

> Letter to: Jayadvaita : 70-07-12 Los Angeles

>

> "Regarding your second point, all incarnations should be proper nouns and

> therefore capitalized. It does not matter whether they are Visnutattva or

> jivatattva, saktyavesa-avatara. or plenary expansion. The incarnations

> listed however may be classified as follows:

> Visnutattva: Kapila, Nara Narayana, Rama, Balarama, Krsna, the Purusas,

> the Boar, Yajna, Rsabha, Matsya, Kurma, Dhanvantari, Mohini and Kalki.

> Jivatattva (empowered): Narada, Vyasa, Buddha, Kumaras, Dattatreya, Prthu

> and Bhrgupati."

 

I hope KK prabhu accepts this statement by Prabhupada that Vyasadeva is a

jiva-tattva and does not ask for a more sastric proof, these being the words

of a sadhu. I also hope he takes back his earlier statements that Vyasadeva

is Visnu-tattva and so his works are sastras and works of the acaryas who

are jiva-tattva, their writings are not. Going back to earlier discussion,

KK prabhu had said that the conclusion that the works of the Goswamis are

even sweeter than those of Vyasadeva is valid only if Vyasadeva was a

jiva-tattva. Now that it has been proved that Vyasadeva is factually a

jiva-tattva, KK prabhu should not have any problem in accepting that

the Goswamis have even excelled Vyasadeva in compiling & writing the

bhakti-smrti-sastras, because they have done so under the direct

instructions of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the most munificent Supreme

Personality of Godhead.

 

I would like to conclude this discussion by quoting this beautiful verse

from Cc Madhya 24.313

 

ahaˆ vedmi uko vetti

vy€so vetti na vetti v€

bhakty€ bh€gavataˆ gr€hyaˆ

na buddhy€ na ca ˜…kay€

 

“[Lord ®iva said:] ‘I may know; ®ukadeva Gosv€m…, the son of Vy€sadeva, may

know; and Vy€sadeva may know or may not know ®r…mad-Bh€gavatam. On the

whole, ®r…mad-Bh€gavatam, the spotless Pur€Ša, can be learned only through

devotional service, not by material intelligence, speculative methods or

imaginary commentaries.’”

 

[Comment: If Siva & Sukadeva know then the Goswamis surely know without any

doubt, but Vyasadeva may know or may not know.]

 

Your servant,

Nayana-ranjana das