RE: For your information

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna,

 

Just for the record, the temple authorities in Vrindaban were not in a

position to correct problems in the gurukula. The darkest times for the

gurukula were in the days of the zonal acharyas, a number of whom were

competing to bring Vrindaban temple and the gurukula under their control. I

doubt the Vrindaban managers were at all aware of the child abuse. If fact,

I can say that there is no evidence to indicate any complicity by anyone

outside the direct Vrindaban gurukula management.

 

Your servant,

Sri Rama das

 

 

 

 

Basu.Ghosh.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se [basu.Ghosh.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se]

Friday, November 12, 1999 9:52 PM

Cc: COM: DMW (Dharma of Men and Women); COM: India (Continental

Committee) Open (Forum); COM: ISKCON India (news & discussion); COM:

Prabhupada Disciples; COM: (Temple) Presidents; COM: AC Bhaktivaibhava

Swami; COM: Bhakti Caitanya Swami; COM: (Bhakti Brnga) Govinda Swami;

COM: Jayadvaita Swami

For your information

 

 

[Text 2775230 from COM]

 

> Letter COM:2774218 (37 lines) [W1]

> ISKCON Baroda (India)

> 12-Nov-99 17:00

> Bhakti-tirtha Swami

> Malati (dd) ACBSP (Columbus - USA)

> Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA)

> Mukhya (dd) (SysOp) (Lund - S)

> For: Free Forum (Announcements)

> Reference: Text COM:2769698 by Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA)

> Re: A History of Cow Abuse in ISKCON

> ---------------------------

> Dear Hare Krishna Mataji,

>

> PAMHO. AGTSP!!!

>

>

> > On the other hand, any community can, on its own investigate its record

> > of abuses -- to the cows, to the children, to the women, and even to

> > other devotees --

>

> I happy that you show more consideration than Malati mataji who just raves

> on about cows, womens and kids by including other devotees. Nice to know

> that people are aware that there are others besides the above mentioned

> people in ISKCON who havent received their due.

>

> > Children, women, cows.... I just have to say that I was not surprised

> > that Vrndavana, which is noted for its history of child abuse, and which

> > has evidently lost several hundred cows over the years, was the site of

> > the recent beatings of women. Vrndavana has never publicly apologized

> > for its history of child abuse or cow abuse. This indicates a very weak

> > spiritual leadership. Thus, I am not at all surprised to hear about

> > women abuse. These things are all connected. Without a doubt there are

> > many sincere devotees living and serving Prabhupada there, including the

> > current cowherd. However, when the leadership is so weak that it will

> > not apologize instantly and seek atonement for all its abuses to the

> > children and cows and women, it creates a great handicap for the general

> > spiritual advancement of our society.

>

> For your kind information, I talked with an indian mataji who was

> personally present and she assured me that no body was "beaten" or was

> there any abuse. they (the matajis) were restrained by a human chain,

> thats all. I humbly feel that people like you who write to public

> conferences should really get your info together before "flying off the

> handle" on com. It simply disturbs people and causes unnecessary

> resentment against the authority.

>

> YS

>

> Kanai Thakur das

> (Text COM:2774218) --------