How does the GBC propose to engage senior Vaisnavis in

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At 04:14 AM 11/22/99 +0530, COM: Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN) wrote:

 

>Remember; "shyness" is a woman's greatest quality!

>

>But since you've never lived here in India... guess you might not have 1st

>hand experience of that. Seems you never visited Mayapur... and seen how

>traditional gaudiya vaishnava women behave... in the culture that Srila

>Prabhupada wanted us to learn and follow...

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>Too bad... maybe next life... maybe never... Hare Krishna Prabhu.

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>I offer you my most respectful obeisances...

 

Did anyone else think to themselves, "Boy, there's a disingenuous letter if

I've ever seen one"?

 

Babhru das

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At 04:14 AM 11/22/99 +0530, COM: Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN) wrote:

 

>Remember; "shyness" is a woman's greatest quality!

>

>But since you've never lived here in India... guess you might not have 1st

>hand experience of that. Seems you never visited Mayapur... and seen how

>traditional gaudiya vaishnava women behave... in the culture that Srila

>Prabhupada wanted us to learn and follow...

>

>Too bad... maybe next life... maybe never... Hare Krishna Prabhu.

>

>I offer you my most respectful obeisances...

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Babhru.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se writes:

 

>> Did anyone else think to themselves, "Boy, there's a disingenuous letter if

I've ever seen one"?

 

Babhru das >>

 

Oh yes. Such men seem to have more interest in keeping a woman on the bodily

concept of *shyness* than on the importance of transcending the body what to

speak of women distributing Prabhupada's books. It was clearly Prabhupada's

instruction that women also should be book distributors and to the same

degree as the men. They cannot argue that.

 

One reason (some) men try to artificially keep a competant woman shy, or

rather so-called shy, is sex desire and power (lording it over). It is a very

attractive material quality, female shyness, but if she is spiritually active

in the temple and a strong Sankirtan devotee, even though such men will not

openly argue that, they would much rather be with a woman who is codependent

on them and so-called shy. Do not misunderstand. I agree that some women are

shy, but not to the degree these men hanker after. Besides, it is just a

mudane personality trait, not a *lets get out of this material world* trait.

 

I also find that some women just are not shy. That does not make them less of

a devotee nor less advanced. She will do great on Sankirtan! Nor will it make

her any less of a mother. Matter of fact, some of the best motherly women in

this movement are the ones who are strong, bold, will not tolerate maya in

their child's life, and will speak up. Not shy but definitely Krishna

Conscious! Therefore it is more important to be Krishna Conscious than it is

to be shy.

 

Those who still disagree are still looking for angles to make sex desire and

control freak mentality acceptable and religious. The more they try to

encourage women to act according to their bodily psychology, the more they

are the cause of damage to her spiritual advancement and the development of

her real traits, her spiritual traits.

 

YS,

Prtha dd