Crowd Control in Vrindaban

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Hare Krishna,

 

This whole controversy, "women vs. the sannyasis," is something of a

mystery to me. The layout in the Vrindaban temple is almost identical to Los

Angeles. The New Dwaraka devotees worked this out years ago:

 

-- When the Deity doors open, the men are lined up on the left, in a line

in front of the first altar. The women are toward the rear.

 

-- After the men offer obeisances at the first altar, they move to the

center altar and the women begin to move to the front of the first altar as

the men clear away.

 

-- The process repeats. When the men have finished offering obeisances,

they circle around and take up a position in front of Prabhupada's

vyasasana. At this point, the women are free to take darshan as they like

and then join the guru-puja.

 

This flow of traffic works for 100+ devotees. However, Vrindaban has a

smaller space to work with because of the steps that drop off toward the

rear. With a cooperative mood, the Vrindaban devotees could work out the

details if they want to.

 

Your servant,

Sri Rama das

 

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Basu.Ghosh.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se [basu.Ghosh.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se]

Sunday, November 21, 1999 2:44 PM

COM: Tirtharaj (das) TKG (Brisbane - AU); COM: DMW (Dharma of Men

and Women); COM: India (Continental Committee) Open (Forum); COM:

Prabhupada Disciples; COM: (International) Women's Ministry

Re: How does the GBC propose to engage senior Vaisnavis in

devotional

 

 

[Text 2797347 from COM]

 

> >

> >

> > OK. We should offer our respects even to an ant! I don't think the

> > present controversy is at all based on disrespect. It's a question that

> > in public; in society; there is the "principle of separation of the

> > sexes".

>

> Then why are the sannyasis so eager to enter the woman's space? Why don't

> they just stay on their own side of the temple? If the argument is that

> they want pay respects to all the Deities, then shouldn't the women be

> given a chance to also go to the men's side, say until the ghee wick has

> been passed?

 

Sorry, but it's neither the "sannyasis" space nor the "woman's space"; it's

the Mandir.

 

And since in vedic culture sannyasis are shown the utmost respect & regard,

it's natural for the women to "shy" away from them... and from other men

also. Remember; "shyness" is a woman's greatest quality!

 

But since you've never lived here in India... guess you might not have 1st

hand experience of that. Seems you never visited Mayapur... and seen how

traditional gaudiya vaishnava women behave... in the culture that Srila

Prabhupada wanted us to learn and follow...

 

Too bad... maybe next life... maybe never... Hare Krishna Prabhu.

 

I offer you my most respectful obeisances...