How does the GBC propose to engage senior Vaisnavas in devotional

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In a message dated 11/21/99 9:20:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,

sthitadi (AT) com (DOT) org writes:

 

<< Yep. Sometimes it does appear as if we are all indulging in too much

victimhood. We often talk of being self-sufficient, which might also suggest

taking personal responsibility and initiative in our spiritual life in as

cooperative of a mood of a we possibly can muster. There was never any

guarentee given to us that the going would always be 'pleasant'.

 

>>

 

His Divine Grace has supplied us with all the components of a happy spiritual

life, we just need to engage ourselves in the process. We are victims only of

our own frailty.

 

We beg for service every day we chant our 16 rounds. Please engage me,

please engage me, please engage me! This is not a new question or prayer!

We daily pray to be continuously engaged!

 

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare,

Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare!

 

YS, Kusha mata

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In a message dated 11/21/99 5:51:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, srirama (AT) jps (DOT) net

writes:

 

<< A word of practical advice: Remember that no group in ISKCON can claim a

monopoly on being abused. Eventually, one must shed the garb of a victim and

take control of his or her own life. Senior Vaishnavas, equipt with years of

experience, should know this better that anyone.

 

Your servant,

Sri Rama das >>

 

Srila Prabhupada chastised us when anyone claimed to be the most fallen, so

who is claiming the dubious title of exclusive abuse?

 

The good news is that ISKCON GBC can anticipate and appreciate the influx of

vanaprasth back into full time direct service. If we respect one another

even in disagreement, the mission will spread, preaching will go on and Srila

Prabhupada will be pleased! We, individually and collectively can

enthusiastically serve our beloved Srila Prabhupada by forever utilizing a

positive attitude and a Krishna conscious plan. We look to the GBC for their

vision and leadership.

 

Srila Prabhupada's Seva Ki Jaya!

Kusha mata

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In a message dated 11/24/1999 10:51:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Kusha.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se writes:

 

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<< A word of practical advice: Remember that no group in ISKCON can claim a

monopoly on being abused. Eventually, one must shed the garb of a victim and

take control of his or her own life. Senior Vaishnavas, equipt with years of

experience, should know this better that anyone.

Your servant,

Sri Rama das >> >>

 

On the contrary, take statistics and you will see numerical facts proving

that the women and children in this movement have been clearly more abused

than anyone else. We do not like to hear that, but it is the truth. If you

don't believe me I am serious about taking those statistics! While it is true

that no one has a monopoly on abuse, it can happen to anyone, it still

happens to women and children more. This is the reason Prabhupada put so much

emphasis on woman protection, because the women (and therefore their

children) are more inclined to receive abuse by others. To say otherwise

would be contradictory to what Prabhupada has said. Do the math.

 

YS,

Prtha dd