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>> You DID compare them you state: "...This statement is an

> insult to my beloved Vrinda devi "

> Yes, the statement "woman in leading position is dangerous" is an insult

>to my beloved Vrinda devi. She is a woman and she is in a leading position,

>and she is not dangerous.

 

You are comparing apples and oranges.

 

> I mean YES to Srila Prabhupada. If Srila Prabhupada should be the role

>model then we should immedietely close all the ashram gurukulas, because he

>never went to one.

 

Not so. He created them! Are you serious?

 

> Yes, I am speaking about ladies in the WEST ISKCON managing. They are head

>pujaris, they are head cooks, they are in the boards.

> Examples: Ganga devi, unmarried, head pujari and head cook (Their

>Lordships Sri Sri Gandharvika-Giridhari), Sriprada dd, unmarried, head

>pujari and head cook (Their Lordships Sri Sri Panca-tattva), Savitri dd,

>married, (her husband is not managing) the chief and the executive of the

>managment board here in Gothenburg, has her own shop by the side too. Almvik

>board (half of the members men, half women). I don't know which kind of

>universe you are living in, but I am in this one.

>

> By the way, if you have so many qualified men, why don't you send some

>over here, we are in lack of it.:)

 

The men will forever be apathetic to protect women and to serve in

managerial roles when women are there like this.

 

>> yes, woman can do it ONLY as a service to help her husband managing

>> service, other way she cann't.

 

> Your statement that they can't do it, doesn't stop them doing it. I gave

>you the examples. They are over here and they are doing it, no matter what

>you say.

 

Who put them in those positions? Harikesa?

 

Ys, Sdd

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> Who put them in those positions? Harikesa?

>

No, Krishna. I am serious. (You know why? Because there are the most

qualified ones around, and they can do it.)

Ys. Sraddha dd

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> We should send our children to collages to get the proper education and

> be prepared to economically take care of their families in the future.

 

We should all play soccer if we haven't already because that is what he did.

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> De: COM: Madhava Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA)

<Madhava.Gosh.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se>

> A: COM: DMW (Dharma of Men and Women) <DMW (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; COM: India

(Continental Committee) Open (Forum) <India.Open (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; COM: Varnasrama

development <Varnasrama.development (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; COM: Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP

(Baroda - IN) <Basu.Ghosh.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se>

> Asunto: Re: A/ Women in leading positions.

> Fecha: Miércoles 8 de Diciembre de 1999 10:00

>

> [Text 2841113 from COM]

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> > We should send our children to collages to get the proper education

and

> > be prepared to economically take care of their families in the future.

>

> We should all play soccer if we haven't already because that is what he

did.

 

He was born a Vaisnava and you don't.

 

ys, Sridhari dd

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> > We should all play soccer if we haven't already because that is what he

> did.

>

> He was born a Vaisnava and you don't.

>

> ys, Sridhari dd

 

Therefore I see that I will have to play much more soccer to make up for that.

(Have fun quoting that one, GHQers)

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On 9 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote:

 

> Therefore I see that I will have to play much more soccer to make up for

that. (Have fun quoting that one, GHQers)

 

Better to follow, not imitate, isn't it. Did Srila Prabhupada ever instruct

any of his disciples to play soccer?

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On 08 Dec 1999, Sridhari dd wrote:

 

 

> >

> > We should all play soccer if we haven't already because that is what he

did.

>

> He was born a Vaisnava and you don't.

>

>

 

 

May we all take birth as such Vaisnava soccer players. I believe playing

goalie is considered particularly transcendental.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 9 Dec 1999, Guru-Krsna das wrote:

 

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> Better to follow, not imitate, isn't it. Did Srila Prabhupada ever instruct

any of his disciples to play soccer?

>

 

 

Maybe not, but he did seem to enjoy telling his disciples about how he grew up

as a Vaisnava. In other words, Gour Mohan De, his pure devotee father, didn't

appear to have philosophical coniptions about this particular activity.

 

ys,

 

Sthita- 'kick the ball' dhi

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On 07 Dec 1999, Sita Devi Dasi wrote:

 

 

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> > I mean YES to Srila Prabhupada. If Srila Prabhupada should be the role

model then we should immedietely close all the ashram gurukulas, because he

never went to one.

>

> Not so. He created them! Are you serious?

>

 

Another question might be -- Are you serious? It sounds like you might have

missed her point.

 

 

 

>

> The men will forever be apathetic to protect women and to serve in

> managerial roles when women are there like this.

>

 

I think if the individual shows actual qualifications for doing the service

successfully, people with find something to respect -- that is, as long as

they are not obsessed with envy.

 

 

ys,

 

Sthita

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