How to train men in ISKCON

[Guest guest]

Regarding the "who is lustier" debate, I would like to remind that "lust" is

not only refering to gross sexual desire or conduct, but to all of its

variable aspects as well. Therefore, because ladies do not appear to be

overtly interested in sexul acts does not necesarrily imply a lack of lust.

 

 

The moderator and many partipants have noted that better we remember and

speak of KRishna...so why are we going on with this topic anyway?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/13/1999 12:23:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Malati.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se writes:

 

>> The moderator and many partipants have noted that better we remember and

speak of KRishna...so why are we going on with this topic anyway?

>>

 

I was under the impression that the only reason we were talking about this

topic was because the GHQ and similar were using a woman's so called intense

lust to justify polygamy as well as the so called need to keep an eye on her,

keep her under their thumb or she will just go haywire. I agree though, it

would be better to speak of Krishna, but in truth, since when have the GHQ

done that? The majority of their posts have been about the opposite sex, and

that is for the purpose of sex whether they will openly admit it or not.

 

YS,

Prtha dd

[Guest guest]

> Definitely. It is *much needed* training, Mataji. But it need not be a

> wonder what to do or how to do it. SP has already given us the framework

> called gurukula. But now we want to break that framework and replace it

> with day schools, charter schools, public schools, etc. Granted, the

> framework became infested with termites and was therefore practically

> destroyed, but it is that same framework which we must restore. Replacing

> it with another framework will not necessarily result in well trained

> young men. Why should it?

 

You see, that framework which you are so proud of, Srila Prabhupad himself

called an experiment.

Here's the quote verbatim: "I am concerned that the gurukula experiment come

out nicely. These children are the future of our society..." (April 11,

1973).

So, if an experiment fails, then it wasn't good.

Ys. Sraddha dd

[Guest guest]

"if men think these women are lusty after them, it is self flaterry or often

illusion..."

 

a very important popint, something I witnessed again and again among

"brahmacaris" here in Germany, unfortunately now most of the have taken

sannyasa without going through the grhasta asrama - or worse: treated the

wife so badly that she left the movement. (of course it was all HER fault

anyway...)

 

ys madanalasa