Egalitarian Animal Farm?

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> On 18 Dec 1999, Sraddha dd wrote:

>

 

> > I didn't speak about the animals. Animals don't go to the universities

> > and

> colleges.

>

> Two-legged animals *do* go to universities and colleges.

>

“The humble sage, by virtue of true knowledge, sees with equal vision a

learned and gentle brahmana, a cow, an elephant, a dog and a dog-eater

[outcaste].” (Bg. 5.18) On the spiritual platform, the learned person not

only gives up the duality of man and woman, but also gives up the duality of

man and animal. This is the test of self-realization. One must realize

perfectly that the living being is spirit soul but is tasting various types

of material bodies."

 

So prabhu, seems like that you didn't pass the test of self-realization.

You are not understanding that on the spiritual level we are all equal. We

are all spirit souls, sac-cid-ananda. We are qualitativly the same. Nobody

is better or worse. On the material level it is just different material

bodies that the souls reside within. All bodies are Krishnas material energy

and they belong to Krishna. We are not owning them, neither we have right to

think that something is ours. If everything belongs to Krishna there is no

question that my material body is better than your material body. We don't

posses them and we have no right to be proud about it, even if some material

body might be better than some other. Everything belongs to Krishna and

there is no question of renonciation, because nothing is ours. Nirmama,

nothig is mine. It is just that one who knows doesn't exploit others.

 

 

> Why do they think that? Is it because the devotees really *are* proud and

> unfriendly, or because the devotees refuse to descend to the sentimental

> platform?

 

Good question? And another one is why didn't they think like that about

Rupa and Sanatana Gosvami? Why everybody really loved them, even the demons?

Why were Rupa and Sanatana Gosvami descending down to the sentimental

platform and helping everybody even with the marriage arrangments and

whatever anybody needed? Is there maybe something for us to learn????

 

 

> If the devotees stay faithful to the process of bhakti-yoga, their present

> pride and unfriendliness will transform into humility and friendliness,

> and eventually they'll even go back to Godhead. But what can we say of the

> destination of the mundane religionists? Where will they go? Are you sure

> that their next birth won't be as mice or ants in the church of their

> choice?

 

Yes, but if one's practicing of bhakti-yoga just makes him more and more

proud and he thinks that he is so much better than others, then it will take

a very long time. It might be that those so-called mundane religionists get

much faster to the goal.

 

You can't see on which level of advancement they are. Krishna is

recupricating with everybody, not just with the souls in the bodies of Hare

Krishnas.

Ys. Sraddha dd