Occam's Razor and Aesop's Contributions

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Dear Prabhus;

 

I to would like to applaud the effort of Virender Dayal Prabhu. I know his

time is very valuable and it takes quite some effort to write these thing. I

would like to say to Ananda Prabhu that these things happen for a reason.

Virender Prabhu is actually trying to stop you from saying things which are

not bona-fide. I am not a scientis but I have been fortunate to have the

asociation of devotees of the Lord and I can recognize deviation when I see

it. The discussion should always go on as you say to avoid blind following.

However the spirit of the discussion must be done with love and respect for

the previous Archaryas and one must be careful to avoid Maya to separate us

from that loving and devotional mood. Otherwise it is like the boatman and

the scholar. So please forgive any offenses in this matter and let us sit

down and chant together All glories to Srila Prabhupada and all Glories to his

sincere followers. and sincere gratitude to Virender Dayal Prabhu for such a

sincere desire to clear up any doubts which may have arisen due to the

controversial nature of the first Oceams razor.

 

YS

Dvibhuja das

> Dear Virender Dayal prabhu,

>

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At 8:40 -0800 9/23/99, WWW: Virender Dayal (New York NY - USA) wrote:

>

>This is pure speculation. Every part of of the Bhagavatam is bhakti because

>it's in relation with the Supreme Lord. And the instructions are telling us

>to accept it all whether it tallies with our imperfect mind or not. If you

>don't follow the method of bhakti, what are you following?? Your mind? Can

>your imperfect limited mind understand the glories of the super intelligent

>Lord Krsna??? If so, it makes your mind>God. Than what type of God is He?

>First thing is, do you believe in God?

 

and

 

>WRONG! Modern scientists follow the method of observe and test so whatever

>they want us to accept, they have to show us how to observe and test it.

>However, they are not doing that (i.e., distances to planets, Big Bang,

>Evolution, etc.) Our method is that you approach a person who knows the

>Absolute Truth and inquire from him and by rendering of devotional service,

>the Absolute Truth is revealed. WHY SHOULD WE FOLLOW THEIR METHOD??? THEY

>DON'T FOLLOW THEIR OWN METHOD. That's hypocracy. The problem is YOU ARE NOT

>FOLLOWING YOUR OWN METHOD and due to your lack of realizations, you have to

>adopt the imperfect method of the scientists.

 

and

 

>To say something in it is not related to Krsna

>means to say that the commentator or the original speaker is affected by maya

>and not fixed in devotional service that he spoke something unrelated to

>Krsna.

 

There is no need to get so worked up, so emotional, and/or this personal.

There is also no need to scream. We're discussing philosophy and science,

not my faith, nor Ananda's and Manohara's possible lack of realizations,

nor is it a good idea to put words into their mouths. Unless we can have a

calm discussion about these matters there is no point in having any

discussion at all. Please try to control yourself.

 

Thank you.

 

Ys,

Madhusudani dasi

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At 11:21 -0800 9/23/99, WWW: Pancha Tattva Dasa (Alachua FL - USA) wrote:

>

>Excellent, prabhu. Well said. I'm a little surprised that devotees in droves

>aren't taking Ananda dasa to task.

 

Maybe because many of us are agreeing with him? Personally, I'm very much

encouraged by seeing an increasing number of devotees who are moving out of

the cult mindset and who are beginning to use their own brains and refusing

to be intimidated by their godbrothers and goduncles who are using all

kinds of immature tactics to try to silence them.

 

Ys,

Madhusudani dasi