Murari Update

[Guest guest]

Dear Prabhus,

 

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

 

We had promised to keep everyone updated as to the happenings at Murari

Sevaka so that truth will prevail and not fiction.

 

There was a meeting of the Murari governing board yesterday. The decision

was made to keep the remaining cows. Prithu prabhu was voted in as the

CO-GBC. He has brought 6 men there to help take care of the cows.

Investigation of legal repercussions towards Drumilla are continuing to be

pursued. Within a week there will be a detailed report from the board.

 

It was also concluded that 14 cows have been slaughtered. There are legal

papers in hand of the actual sale. We pray that this act will not be

forgotten, that the perpetrator will not go unpunished, that the Executive

committee take some action or make some statement, and in short that action

which can set a precedent is taken so that it be clearly understood that

victimization of Lord Krsna's most vulnerable citizens (and any citizens) is

not according to our most beloved spiritual master's, Srila Prabhupada's,

desire and vison for The International Society for Krsna Consciousness.

 

COWS + OXEN SENT TO SLAUGHTER BY DRUMILA :

 

They are:

 

1) Varuni - cow , (Black Angus mix) 4 Yrs. old (not Trained) sent

for breeding (now known to be slaughtered)

2) Indra - oxen , (Brown Swiss mix) 8 --10 Yrs. old (not Trained)

3) Cintamani - cow , (Jersey) 4 Yrs. old (Trained) sent for breeding

(now known to be slaughtered)

4) Indra - Bull, (Jersey) 4 Yrs. old (Trained) sent for breeding (now

known to be slaughtered)

5) Chota - oxen, (Jersey) 4 Yrs. old (Trained)

6) Maha - oxen, (Jersey) 4 Yrs. old (Trained)

7) Dharma - oxen, (Jersey) 4 Yrs. old (Trained)

8) Bhima - oxen, (Jersey) 4 Yrs. old (Trained)

9) Bala - oxen, (Jersey) 4 Yrs. old (Trained)

10) Prabhu - oxen, (Long Hair Jersey) 4 Yrs. old (Trained)

11) Bimba - oxen, (Red Angus+Brown Swiss) 6 Yrs. old (Trained)

12) Tala - oxen, (Black Angus+Brown Swiss) 6 Yrs. old (Trained)

 

 

GIVEN TO JOHNNY LEE BY DRUMILA . SENT TO SLAUGHTER

BY JOHNNY LEE.

 

Hamsi - cow, (Herford mix ?) 12 Yrs.old

Hamsi's Bull calf. He was about 1wk. old when given away.

 

Your servant,

Balabhadra das

ISKCON Minister for Cow Protection and Agriculture

[Guest guest]

We are waiting to hear some kind of response on this from the GBC Executive

Committee.

 

It is interesting to note that when the Vrndavana women-beating incident took

place, the GBC chairman responded within a couple days with some assessment and

a directive.

 

These cows were sold to slaughter back in June during the Panihatti Festival,

and still we have heard no official comment from the GBC Executive Committee,

five months later.

 

If you think being a woman puts you in an un-protected position in ISKCON --

try being a cow. Then why should anyone protect you? -- you aren't even

collecting money to build temples. You are simply a burden on ISKCON.

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

 

 

"COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote:

 

> [Text 2786551 from COM]

>

> At 9:09 -0800 11/17/99, Martin wrote:

> >

> >In the case of Drumilla however he has been 100 percent shown to be guilty

> >of sending innocent animals to slaughter.

>

> There is no doubt that the memebrs of these conferences could come up with

> some fitting punishment for Drumilla. But we don't have COM justice - yet.

> What *is* the procedure for bringing someone like him to justice in ISKCON

> and what is actually being *done* right now? Does anyone even know where

> he is?

>

> Ys,

> Madhusudani dasi

[Guest guest]

On 17 Nov 1999, Hare Krsna dasi wrote:

 

> It is interesting to note that when the Vrndavana women-beating incident

took place,

 

[Mahaman Prabhu has just recently written:

 

Dear Vipramukhya Maharaj,

Please accept my humble obiesances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Please publish the following explanation on my behalf and on behalf of the

Vrindavan Leaders whose names are mentioned at the end.

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It was a management issue and not man/woman conflict.

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This is to humbly submit to the community of Vaishnavas all over the world

that what happened in Vrindavan between the Vrindavan Management and some

matajis headed by Parvati was purely an administrative and managerial issue.

It had nothing to do with undermining the position of women devotees. The

following detailed account should make everything clear.

 

About three weeks ago, just after the curtains opened for mangala aratik at

4:30 am. HH Giriraj swami approached me and complained to me that he could

not even have darshan of the Radha Syamsundar altar or offer his obeisances

because the whole altar was taken over by the ladies even before the

curtains were opened. Previous to this, several other sannyasis and other

devotees including HH Lokanath Swami and HH Radha Govinda Maharaj had also

complained that they were experiencing difficulties in offering obeisances

in front of the Radha Syamsundar altar. The management committee discussed

this issue and resolved that sannyasis and men be allowed to take darshan

and offer obeisances to Radha Syamsundar until the passing of the ghee wick

lamp. The men would then move towards the Krsna Balaram altar leaving Radha

Syamsundar altar free for the women till the end of mangala aratik. This

system for darshan was suggested by the ladies themselves. The next morning

a clear announcement was made about this decision.

On the day when this arrangement was to begin, I was personally present

early in the temple room and was surprised to see that some ladies were

already holding tightly to the railings infront of the altar.

I requested some of the matajis to please move back and let the men offer

their obeisances and after the ghee wick lamp is passed they could come

forward. Some of these ladies followed my instructions gracefully but some

others like Anada and Parvati flagrantly refused. Parvati started pushing

even the innocent and obedient ladies to the front. This created an

embarassing sitution for the men who were surrounded by the ladies. The

management and other devotees were naturally very upset by this unruly and

defiant behavior. As a solution to this problem the management team decided

to go back to the system that has been existing since the time of Srila

Prabhupada, i.e. the men stand in front and the ladies at the back. So

Aindra Prabhu moved his 24 hour kirtan party in front of Radhe Shyam's altar

and many other brahmacaris joined him. Angered that her plan was not

successful Parvati started to push around the men on the Krsna Balaram and

Gaur Nitai altars. She started elbowing everybody out, pushing them and

shoving them. Because she pushed the brahmacaris first, the brahmacaris who

were already alarmed by her previous day's misbehavior pushed back in self

defense.

 

This is what Parvati calls gang rape, hugging, molestation etc. When she got

what she was giving to others she started fabricating all kinds of lies and

stories such as that women were gang raped, hugged, molested etc. in front

of the deities. We have rarely seen a more deceitful and shameless attempt

to lie and make up a story. Look at the travesity of justice!

 

Here is the person who acts in the most uncivilized, uncultured and

uncooperative manner and she uses the words gang raped, hugged etc. and the

whole ISKCON world without asking us starts believing her and passes

judgement on us. Perhaps because we are too soft and too gentle and too easy

a target.

 

It is surprising that Braj Bihari Prabhu without verifying the story from

both sides supports Parvati's version. As a matter of fact Braj Bihari

prabhu admitted to me that he was not present in the temple room on the day

these incidents are alleged to have taken place. So much for his assessment

of the events ! "It was awful." BY this statement he has misled a large

section of readers on this website. Braj Bihari's opinion in the form of

several points is refuted as follows.

 

1) It is not true that the ladies unknowingly or unintentionally entered the

men's space. I personally and our temple commander pleaded with the ladies

to gracefully move back. Some complied, others blatantly defied. I found out

later that as soon as the announcement regarding darshan had been made,

Parvati began insulting me and instigating the women to defy the management.

This defiance of the management by the ladies headed by Parvati was

preplanned and executed in full force.

 

2) Mediation with a person of an uncontrollable temperament like Parvati's

is impossible especially under the intense situation during the festival.

As a matter of fact, even after some reconciliatory steps have been taken,

she still keeps pushing her weight around without any respect for the

management.

 

3) Indeed the management has its take on what happened.

 

4) Parvati's statements are complete lies.

 

Just look at the extent to which Parvati and some other women stooped when

they instigated a potential donor to allegedly cancel a check for a $100,000

to ISKCON!

Srila Prabhupada instructed us to observe proper ettiquette in Vrindavan.

Unfortunately, however, our attempt to promote this is taken as

exploitation, and we are blamed, even by some persons who have contributed

to the correspondence in this matter and are known to be scandalous.

 

Leaders and devotees in general should take note that the Vrindavan temple

arranges the Kartik Festival with great dexterity even though every year we

run into a loss of Rs.200,000.00. We feel privilleged to render this service

to all Vaishnavas and Vaishnavis. In order to enable us to do this service

year after year, we request all the guests to please cooperate with the

temple management and follow the ettiquette that is expected of guests. This

will insure that the mood of the festival is not spolied as it was during

this Kartik by a small group of women.

 

The management of ISKCON Vrindavan is committed to, amongst other things,

holding festivals for the benefit of Vaishnavas and Vaishnavis. We shall not

tolerate the disturbances created by the likes of Parvati in the future.

 

Further, the management of ISKCON Vrindavan has always engaged women in

responsible services and have taken great care to meet their needs. Up until

three weeks ago there were no complaints about disharmony between men and

women. We assure you that to keep harmony between men and women is one of

our goals.

 

Thank you.

 

compiled by

 

Your Servant,

 

Mahaman Das.

 

And supported by

Lokanath Swami

Radha Govinda Swami

Deena Bandhu Das

Pancagauda Das

Prem Kishore Das

Mukunda Datta Das

Vaishnava Das

Ganapati Das

Gaur Narayan Das

Iswar Das

Laxman Das

Devarata Dasa

Aindra Das

Sarvabhauma Das

Braj Bhumi Das

Radha Kunda dd.

Brijbasi dd.

Paramhamsa dd.

Guruprasad dd.

 

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