Guest guest Posted June 10, 1997 Report Share Posted June 10, 1997 This is a paper Badrinarayan Prabhu has just completed entitled "Following in Srila Prabhupada's Footsteps." It is a reply to "My Heartly Blessings," by Narayana Maharaj via Bhudhara das. Householder Disciples Srila Prabhupada laid out a clear code for his householder disciples: intimate relations are permitted only once a month, and then only for the purpose of having children and after fifty rounds of japa are chanted. Bhurijana Prabhu gives the following report based on his talks with Srila Narayana Maharaja: "Narayana Maharaja said that no Gaudiya Vaisnava acarya had ever given such explicit instructions regulating household life. He asked why Srila Prabhupada bothered with the private affairs of married couples, saying that it is not really the business of the guru to give instructions on these matters." Again, Srila Narayana Maharaja is free to teach as he likes; ISKCON follows Srila Prabhupada. ************************************** Srila Prabhupada's spiritual identity Bhudhara Prabhu writes: "Srila Narayana Maharaja has suggested . . . how we might appreciate what hints Srila Prabhupada has given us about his nitya-lila." He then goes on to string together bhajans Srila Prabhupada chanted, book prefaces, and the sannyasa mantra to make a case for Srila Prabhupada's being in gopi-bhava. Whenever Srila Prabhupada was asked about this topic, he would become quiet and stern. His stock answer, oft repeated, was "That you do not require." Since we respect Srila Prabhupada's statements on this subject, enough said. We should simply note that it was not his mood to reveal his spiritual identity to us, nor do we need to know it. (A final observation: That so much time and attention has been spent on a topic we "do not require" illustrates the types of distractions one can fall prey to when there is premature hearing of "rasa-katha.") ************************************** Cooperation "My Heartly Blessings" contains an emotional appeal for an "ecumenical spirit" among Vaisnava institutions. Bhudhara Prabhu admonishes ISKCON to "transcend crippling institutional limitations." No one will deny that Srila Prabhupada would have liked to see more cooperation between his Godbrothers and ISKCON. Simultaneously, Srila Prabhupada was fully aware of the sad history resulting from his disciples' association with certain of his Godbrothers. Bhudhara Prabhu himself admits as much, while trying to couch his admission in the following artfully constructed paragraph: "While we do not want to digress into a review of the history of relations between the two institutions, it may be helpful to reference some of the positive aspects of the relationship. This may also lead to a more full understanding of a history that cannot be summarily discounted by reference to misunderstandings of the past. It is easy to create catch-phrases that lump the non-familiar into convenient undesirable categories." Why don't we want to "digress into a review of the history of relations between the two institutions"? Because such a digression would inevitably review the painful history of slights, abuses, and attacks tolerated by Srila Prabhupada and ISKCON. What are those "misunderstandings of the past"? Could they be Srila Prabhupada's numerous warnings to his disciples to avoid mixing with members of the Gaudiya Matha? It was not without good cause that Srila Prabhupada wrote the following warning to Rupanuga Prabhu in a letter dated 28 April 1974: "We shall be very careful about [my Godbrothers] and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you all. They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to harm our natural progress. So we must be very careful about them." Actually, ISKCON has tried to be one of the most accommodating of all the Gaudiya Vaisnava missions. According to Jayapataka Maharaja, a long-time observer of the relations among the various Gaudiya Mathas, it is practically unheard-of for the acarya of one matha to expect to be able to travel to another matha's various branches and be given a forum to lecture to the local matha's residents and congregation. Yet ISKCON had been willing to try this, bringing its members to hear from Srila Narayana Maharaja and hosting him at our various temples. (It is only when the canvassing and criticism by Srila Narayana Maharaja's followers became intolerable that ISKCON broke off the relationship.) Bhudhara Prabhu makes his case for cooperation primarily by presenting excerpts from Srila Prabhupada's letters and conversations. Further study reveals that most of those letters and conversations concern Srila Prabhupada's efforts to work on joint preaching programs through the Bhaktivedanta Charity Trust. Srila Prabhupada, with his usual genius, was trying to find a way to build a bond of mutual respect and cooperation between ISKCON and the Gaudiya Matha while protecting his institution from the Gaudiya Matha's proven tendency to infiltrate and try to change ISKCON. We are safest if we follow in Srila Prabhupada's footsteps by cooperating with the Gaudiya Matha in executing preaching programs in which we have a mutual interest, such as restoring tirthas and distributing prasadam to large numbers of people. These are, of course, the very activities of his Bhaktivedanta Charity Trust, as mentioned in those original letters and conversations. History teaches us that problems arise not from the institutional distinctions between ISKCON and the Gaudiya Matha but when Gaudiya Matha members become instrumental in promoting changes in the practices and philosophy established by Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada, while the emblem of humility, was adamant that in all formal contexts his name bear the title "founder-acarya." He insisted that the full title be used on all ISKCON buildings, books, letterheads, advertisements, etc. >From the Vedic literature we learn that one of the meanings of the term founder-acarya (samsthapakacarya) is "he who sets the standards to which all others conform." Srila Prabhupada clearly intended the standards he established for the philosophy and practice of Krsna consciousness to remain as the norm for ISKCON for the next ten thousand years. Bhudhara Prabhu advocates closer relations with the Gaudiya Matha and cites Srila Prabhupada's statements about "cooperation" as the basis for this rapprochement. However, he omits an important principle on which Srila Prabhupada saw that such cooperation should be based. Bhudhara Prabhu writes: "From the early days of his mission until his last, Srila Prabhupada encouraged cooperation with his Godbrothers." Bhudhara Prabhu quotes the following line from a letter by Srila Prabhupada dated 5 September 1969: "I am sure if Gaudiya Mission and I combine together, it will be very nice thing to preach the cult of Lord Caitanya all over the world." But Bhudhara Prabhu omits the very next sentence, in which Srila Prabhupada writes: "I can reorganize all the branches of the Gaudiya Math in India, and if there is any financial question, it will be not difficult for our society to help in that way also." In other words, the basis for cooperation was to be that Srila Prabhupada, as the one truly successful worldwide preacher, would "reorganize all the branches of the Gaudiya Matha." It was not that ISKCON would accept the Gaudiya Matha's leadership and gradually abandon or alter the standards and philosophical principles given by Srila Prabhupada. ************************************** The Original Position of the Jiva In his public statements and personal communications, Srila Narayana Maharaja teaches that the jivas cannot fall from the spiritual world. Even the most adamant "no fall" advocates concede that whenever Srila Prabhupada was directly asked about the original position of the jivas in the material world, he replied with his standard answer: "Once we were with Krsna, but by misusing our free will we have fallen to this material world. By practicing the science of devotional service to Krsna we can revive our original consciousness and return back home, back to Godhead." Srila Narayana Maharaja preaches in one way, Srila Prabhupada in another. No doubt Srila Narayana Maharaja is fully entitled to present Krsna consciousness as he likes. Our duty is to accept the version of Srila Prabhupada and preach as he did. (See Appendixes #3 and #4.) ************************************** Conclusion Bhudhara prabhu writes: "The GBC's position paper suggests that Srila Narayana Maharaja somehow wants to 'modify' Srila Prabhupada's legacy. This is so misleading that in non-ecclesiastical circles it would be considered slanderous." Before responding to this statement, let us recap what ISKCON is being asked to embrace: * A stress on the need for raganuga practices and hearing "rasa-katha from a rasika-bhakta" * the broad introduction of literature whose study was previously restricted by Srila Prabhupada * a new interpretation of what Srila Prabhupada's "unfinished work" was * a new meaning of first initiation * a theory that the guru does not accept the karma of his disciple * that ISKCON is now to be influenced by unseen letters and decisions not necessarily based on a deep study of Srila Prabhupada's books * different standards for first initiation * different standards for the grhastha-asrama * a new definition of ISKCON'S role among the various Gaudiya missions * re-interpretation of the mood of the Deity worship in at least two leading ISKCON temples * various theories about Srila Prabhupada's spiritual identity * a different preaching presentation on the origin of the jiva In a number of lectures to ISKCON devotees, Srila Narayana Maharaja complained that he had much to give ISKCON but that he was being blocked by its leaders. What he wants to give is summarized in the above list. It is difficult to imagine any ISKCON leader going before Srila Prabhupada and presenting to him such a list of proposed modifications. The truth is not slander. There is no question but that there are many differences between Srila Prabhupada's presentation and that of Srila Narayana Maharaja. ISKCON recognizes Srila Narayana Maharaja as an advanced Vaisnava. Its leaders appreciate his many services to Srila Prabhupada in the past. He is certainly free to travel all over the world and preach as his realization inspires him, and ISKCON wishes him success in his efforts. At the same time, all members of ISKCON, and in particular its leaders, are enjoined by the following statement of Srila Prabhupada: "It is not that I disobey my real Spiritual Master and call someone else as Spiritual Master. That is wrong. It is only that I can call Spiritual Master [siksa-guru] someone who is teaching me purely what my initiating Spiritual Master has taught." (Letter to Sri Galim, 20 November 1971) If we have committed any offenses in the course of this presentation, we assure Srila Narayana Maharaja and his followers that they are unintended and regretted. We pray that they will be merciful upon us, understanding that while these are delicate matters, we are dutybound to speak as we have been taught by His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada. In the service of Srila Prabhupada, Badrinarayan dasa Member ISKCON GBC June 6, 1997 ************************************** APPENDIXES Appendix #1 Bhudhara Prabhu criticizes the tone of the GBC position paper regarding ISKCON devotees' taking siksa from Srila Narayana Maharaja. The following is a sampling of the terms Bhudhara Prabhu aims at the authors of the GBC paper: Sophomoric, devious, libelous, lacking common sense, insidious, foolish, scare-mongering, paranoia, lack of experience and philosophical skill, dark-minded, lack of open-mindedness, brow-beat the reader, to lack a generosity of spirit, high-handed ecclesiastical mode of presentation, heresy, deceitful behavior, dark nature, unseemly. With all due respect, the old adage "Physician, heal thyself" does come to mind. Appendix #2 In the letters that follow Srila Prabhupada refers directly to Sri Sri Rukmini-Dvarakadhisa. This correspondence certainly forms a strong argument that he accepted those names. The excerpt from a room conversation shows Srila Prabhupada personally using the name Dvarakadhisa with affection and intimacy. Letter, 24 Nov 1976 Thank you very much for the pictures of Rukmini Dvarakadhisa. They are very nice. Letter, 10 Nov 1975 Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your card dated October 25, 1975, along with the beautiful photographs of Sri Sri Rukmini-Dvarakadhisa of New Dvaraka. Letter, 29 Jun 1973 It is very encouraging to hear the arrangement you are making for worship of Their Lordships Sri Dvarakadhisa and Rukmini. Please do it very nicely and I shall be glad to see the completed result. ---------------- The following exchange is excerpted from a room conversation recorded in Vrndavana on June 17, 1977. Here Srila Prabhupada recalls very intimately addressing Krsna in Los Angeles as Dvarakadhisa as early as 1970. Srila Prabhupada is describing how he left Vrndavana in 1965 and came to the West, and then how Krsna sent him back to India to establish temples in Mayapur and Vrindaban. ---------------- TAMALA KRSNA: Actually, when you intended to go to America, everyone was advising, "Better not go. It is too dangerous for someone of your age. Do not go." Someone even said that you may not come back. SRILA PRABHUPADA: I thought all this. I went to USA not to come back. I left here hopeless. I did not want to come back. I went with determination that "If I do this job, I will survive." So Krsna helped me. . . . I made my headquarters in Los Angeles. TAMALA KRSNA: Well . . . by your coming here it was wonderful. SRILA PRABHUPADA: That means Krsna desired. Otherwise I had no plan to come back here. TAMALA KRSNA: Your business was in the West. Still it is, you said. Still, whatever we're doing here-- SRILA PRABHUPADA: Therefore I took this permanent residency. TAMALA KRSNA: Not intention but... Do you regret having come back to India? SRILA PRABHUPADA: No, it is well. My plan was like that, but Krsna's plan was different. When I was coming back, I was speaking to Dvarakadhisa, "I do not know. I came here to live. Why You are driving me away?" While leaving Los Angeles I was not happy. TAMALA KRSNA: Oh, I remember. SRILA PRABHUPADA: But He had this plan. TAMALA KRSNA: Pretty nice plan. SRILA PRABHUPADA: Krsna wanted that "You left Vrndavana. I'll give you better place in Vrndavana. (chuckles) You were retired in Vrndavana. I obliged you to leave. Now you come back. I'll give you better place." So He has given a temple [Krsna-Balarama Mandir] hundred times better than Los Angeles. Is it not? TAMALA KRSNA: There's nothing comparable in the three worlds. SRILA PRABHUPADA: Hm. So it is always by His desire. ---------------- Appendix #3 The following is from a letter Srila Prabhupada wrote to Madhu-dvisa Prabhu when the latter was the GBC for Australia. Crow And Tal-Fruit Logic We never had any occasion when we were separated from Krsna. Just like one man is dreaming and he forgets himself. In dream he creates himself in different forms: now I am the King discussing like that. This creation of himself is as seer and subject matter or seen, two things. But as soon as the dream is over, the "seen" disappears. But the seer remains. Now he is in his original position. Our separation from Krsna is like that. We dream this body and so many relationships with other things. First the attachment comes to enjoy sense gratification. Even with Krsna desire for sense gratification is there. There is a dormant attitude for forgetting Krsna and creating an atmosphere for enjoying independently. Just like at the edge of the beach, sometimes the water covers, sometimes there is dry sand, coming and going. Our position is like that, sometimes covered, sometimes free, just like at the edge of the tide. As soon as we forget, immediately the illusion is there. Just like as soon as we sleep, dream is there. We cannot say therefore that we are not with Krsna. As soon as we try to become Lord, immediately we are covered by Maya. Formerly we were with Krsna in His lila or sport. But this covering of Maya may be of very, very, very, very long duration, therefore many creations are coming and going. Due to this long period of time it is sometimes said that we are ever-conditioned. But his long duration of time becomes very insignificant when one actually comes to Krsna consciousness. Just like in a dream we are thinking very long time, but as soon as we awaken we look at our watch and see it has been a moment only. Just like with Krsna's friends, they were kept asleep for one year by Brahma, but when they woke up and Krsna returned before them, they considered that only a moment had passed. So this dreaming condition is called non-liberated life, and this is just like a dream. Although in this material calculation it is a long, long period, as soon as we come to Krsna consciousness then this period is considered as a second. For example, Jaya and Vijaya. They had their lila with Krsna, but they had to come down for their little mistake. They were given mukti, emerging into the Brahmasayujya after being killed three times as demons. This Brahmasayujya mukti is non-permanent. Every living entity wants pleasure, but Brahmasayujya is minus pleasure. There is eternal existence only. So when they do not find transcendental bliss, they fall down to make a compromise with material bliss. Just like Vivekananda founded so many schools and hospitals. So even Lord Brahma, he is still material and wants to lord it over. He may come down to become a germ, but then he may rise up to Krsna consciousness and go back to home, back to Godhead. This is the position. So when I say Yes, there is eternal lila with Krsna, that means on the evidence of Jaya-Vijaya. Unless one develops full devotional service to Krsna, he goes up only up to Brahmasayujya but falls down. But after millions and millions of years of keeping oneself away from the lila of the Lord, when one comes to Krsna consciousness this period becomes insignificant, just like dreaming. Because he falls down from Brahmasayujya, he thinks that may be his origin, but he does not remember that before that even he was with Krsna. So the conclusion is that whatever may be our past, let us come to Krsna consciousness and immediately join Krsna. Just like with a diseased man, it is a waste of time to try to find out how he has become diseased, better to spend time curing the disease. On the top of the tree there is a nice tal-fruit. A crow went there and the fruit fell down, Some panditas, big big learned scholars saw this and discussed: the fruit fell due to the crow agitating the limb. No, the fruit fell simultaneously with the crow landing and frightened the crow so he flew away. No, the fruit was ripe and the weight of the crow landing broke it from the branch, and so on and so on. What is the use of such discussions? So whether you were in the Brahmasayujya or with Krsna in His lila, at the moment you are in neither, so the best policy is to develop your Krsna consciousness and go there, never mind what is your origin. Brahmasayujya and Krsna lila--both may be possible, but when you are coming down from Brahmasayujya or when you are coming down from Krsna lila, that remains a mystery. But at the present moment we are in Maya's clutches, so at present our only hope is to become Krsna conscious and go back to Home, back to Godhead. The real position is servant of Krsna, and servant of Krsna means in Krsna lila. Directly or indirectly, always we are serving Krsna's lila. Even in dream. Just like we cannot go out of the sun when it is daytime, so where is the chance of going out of Krsna lila? The cloud may be there, it may become very gray and dim, but still the sunlight is there, everywhere, during the daytime. Because I am part and parcel of Krsna, I am always connected. My finger, even though it may be diseased, remains part and parcel of my body. Therefore, we try to treat it, cure it, because it is part and parcel. So Krsna comes Himself when we forget Him, or He sends His representative. Awakening or dreaming, I am the same man. As soon as I awaken and see myself, I see Krsna. Cause and effect are both Krsna. Just like cotton becomes thread and thread becomes cloth, still, the original cause is cotton. Therefore, everything is Krsna in the ultimate sense. When we cannot contact Krsna personally, we contact His energies. So there is no chance to be outside Krsna's lila. But differences we see under different conditions. Just like in the pool of water and in the mirror the same me is reflecting, but in different reflections. One is shimmering, unsteady, one is clear and fixed. Except for being in Krsna consciousness, we cannot see our actual position rightly, therefore the learned man sees all living entities as the same parts and parcels of Krsna. Material existence is impersonal because my real personality is covered. But we should think that because I am now covered by this clay, I am diseased, and we should think that I must get to business to get myself uncovered, not wonder how I got this way. Now the fruit is there, take it and enjoy, that is your first business. God is not bound by cause. He can change, He is the Cause of all Causes. Now don't waste your time with this "Kaka taliya nyaya," crows and tal-fruit logic. ---------------- Appendix #4 "Not Even the Leaves Fall in Vaikuntha," by Satya Narayana dasa and Kundali dasa: "Especially dumbfounding is the fact that Srila Prabhupada consistently answered the direct question either in letters or in person in favor of the fall. This leads many devotees to believe that of the two versions, he ultimately favored the fall theory" (Second Wave: Chapter 6, page 123) ********************* END ********************** (end of part 3 of 3) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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