Guest guest Posted November 9, 1999 Report Share Posted November 9, 1999 Dear Prabhus, Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! The point still remains that 12 cows living under the protection of an ISKCON cow protection facility were slaughtered by an ISKCON authority and nothing has been forth coming as an Executive statement from the GBC. Can everyone now just start to forget this heinous act? Have they died in vain? What is going to be done? Nothing? There is some lack of responsibility here to be atoned for. As Hare Krsna dasi said, "Will there be any public acts of contrition for all this abuse? Or will you continue your mantra: "I'm not responsible. I knew nothing." We have put together a system of check and balances for ISKCON cow protection facilities to prevent such abuse from happening. As stated in the Cow Standards the GBC is to meet quarterly with cowherds, inspect cow protection facilities, and file a report with ISKCON's Minister of Cow Protection and Agriculture. The GBC may also appoint a monitor to do this service, but the GBC must visit the cowherds and facilities at least once a year. There was only one report from a GBC, there were two reports from head cowherds who had given their reports to the GBC but the GBC never sent them to us. No monitors were appointed. If these reports are done timely, (the monitor is doing his/her service, the GBC is reading the reports and properly visiting, the ministry is receiving reports), you have a check and balance system in place. Together then we can work to rectify the situation. But if there is no cooperation, no reports made, no monitors-then what to do? There are still 5 cows remaining at Murari. I spoke with Balavanta prabhu (who is one of the land trustees for Murari and very aware of the history of Murari over the last 25 years). He feels that in the last 8 to 10 years there has crept into Murari a consciousness of irresponsibility and disrespect for the cows. About 5 or 6 years ago a scheme was concocted to trade undesirable animals for animals which were considered by some residents to be more desirable. At that time Jayapataka Maharaja was the GBC and this scheme was brought to his attention as he was getting into a car departing his one day visit at the farm. My understanding is that he was caught off guard and said, "What does this mean, a soul for soul?" The scheme progressed and twelve so called undesirable animals were traded with a non devotee farmer for 12 so called desirable animals. Keep in mind that gving cows to a non-devotte farmer means the cows will be slaugheterd at some point. The point is these animals took birth at Murari under the shelter of Lord Chaitanya's sankirtan movement and because they were never trained and engaged in service they became undesirable. This is not the cows fault. It is a management shortcoming. There is a undercurrent of thought by some members of the community there that because these animals were part beef breed (neighbor's bulls over the fence) that they are not worth training or even having on the farm. Unfortunately Drumila was very close with these people and was infected with this mentally. Hence, 12 more cows were sent away for slaughter. The GBC and the residents of Murari have made arrangements for the remaining 13 cows remaining cows to be taken to New Talavan. Already 8 have been taken. Balavanta feels, and the Ministry agrees with him 100 %, that the 5 remaining cows should not be removed from Murari in order to begin the healing process of taking the responsibility for the innocent dependents under their care. The ministry is currently drawing up this proposal which will be presented at Murari at the next Board of Directors meeting November 14. And what about the 2 cows and 1 bull sold for breeding? It is the Ministry's recommendation that these animals be sought after and brought back to Murari. We pray they have not been slaughtered yet. Your servant, Balabhadra das ISKCON Minister for Cow Protection and Agriculture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 1999 Report Share Posted November 10, 1999 "COM: Malati (dd) ACBSP (Columbus - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2769531 from COM] > > Hare Krishna..Is there documentation proof as of this horror storey? > (ie:some kind of facts to verify the statements?) I think this is very > important in order to get your points across effectively and insure an > adequate response. > > I could not eat lunch today as a result of reading your letter. Children, > women, cows,....what/who is next? Malati Prabhu-- Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. I'm not sure whether you are addressing me directly. (I never know if devotees are addressing me unless they call me Hare Krsna dasi or Mother Hare Krsna -- that's a life-long joke my spiritual master played on me.) Anyway, as for documentation. I have given what I could. The FBI has a saying: "There is no justice without investigation." In general, our policy in ISKCON has been: We don't investigate. The Child Protection Office (is that the correct name) is fortunately changing that. Investigation -- especially by impartial and thorough outside investigators -- costs money, and unfortunately we have never wanted to spend that money to investigate whether certain charges are factual. It's almost like a Catch 22 in ISKCON: Don't bring up these allegations until we have investigated to see if they are true. And when do you plan to do that investigation? -- Never! On the other hand, I have only quoted from sources whom I personally feel are credible. For example, when a devotee with the strength of character and reputation for competent cow care of the stature of Syamasundara prabhu states that the mathematics for the Vrndavana and Mayapura gosalla indicates that hundreds of cows are missing from what should be there, I give him very strong credence. His logic is very strong. The fact that the GBC's have never investigated this situation and have never made any public apology for the unfortunate history of their projects is very disturbing to me. In fact, I must say that it makes me question their qualification as spiritual leaders. I am happy to see that you personally are working on reports for New Vrndavana, etc. Much better late than never. The past history of New Vrndavana should also be investigated. Once again, as Vyapaka prabhu points out, the mathematics do not add up. According to the number of cows they bred per year, there should be many more cows there. The situation is somewhat awkward because is seems that much of the problem took place while New Vrndavana was not part of ISKCON. Nevertheless, those cows originally belonged to ISKCON. They did not leave ISKCON when the leader of their community became a demon. They were trapped there. So, still ultimately, we should take the responsibility. On the other hand, any community can, on its own investigate its record of abuses -- to the cows, to the children, to the women, and even to other devotees -- it can work to come up with its true history, no matter how shameful that history may be. Then it can present that history before the devotees, before Srila Prabhupada and before the Deities. It can pray for forgiveness and pray for the intelligence and the spirit of cooperation to rectify the sins of the past. Out of such an act of purification can come great hope and a very practical lesson for generations of the future not to repeat our grievous errors. I feel very strongly that much of our current troubles of quarrels come from our failure to come to grips with our shameful history of cow abuse in ISKCON. The GBC where abuse has occurred probably have a good idea of what has happened. Certainly it is their duty to Srila Prabhupada to make sure that the management of all their communities is going nicely. If cows are being abused, it means that "all the affairs of management [are going] to hell" as Srila Prabhupada states in the Seventh Canto. How can ISKCON progress unless we atone for our offenses to Krsna's messengers, the cows? But it is so much more than simply clearing out the bad karma from our sins of the past (or even of the present). If only we will investigate this situation with the cows, when we seriously look for the answers to solve the problem we will change our way of life in a manner that will be much more conducive to Krsna consciousness. Sarve sukhino bhavantu -- Make Everyone Happy -- is what Srila Prabhupada said many times. And that begins with the cows. If we make arrangements so that the cows can actually be taken care of nicely, it will require a complete social restructuring. And that complete restructuring, to "thoroughly overhaul society" as Prabhupada put it, will be into a society where everyone is treated well, and everyone is encouraged in his or her service to Krsna. You ask what is next? What is next is abuse of the elderly -- that's you and me in a very few more years. That's really what is next -- unless we clean up ISKCON and beg Krsna for forgiveness for our spiritual blindness and our sins of the past. Children, women, cows.... I just have to say that I was not surprised that Vrndavana, which is noted for its history of child abuse, and which has evidently lost several hundred cows over the years, was the site of the recent beatings of women. Vrndavana has never publicly apologized for its history of child abuse or cow abuse. This indicates a very weak spiritual leadership. Thus, I am not at all surprised to hear about women abuse. These things are all connected. Without a doubt there are many sincere devotees living and serving Prabhupada there, including the current cowherd. However, when the leadership is so weak that it will not apologize instantly and seek atonement for all its abuses to the children and cows and women, it creates a great handicap for the general spiritual advancement of our society. The question must be asked: Are people who will not uphold the principles taught by Srila Prabhupada and the laws of ISKCON fit to be our spiritual leaders? your servant, Hare Krsna dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2000 Report Share Posted February 24, 2000 << Exactly, the brahmanas need to set the example. They ARE, but who recognises them and who respects or supports their efforts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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