Guest guest Posted October 18, 1999 Report Share Posted October 18, 1999 ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Letter COM:2710035 (162 lines) Anuttama (das) JPS (Santiago - CHL) 18-Oct-99 20:12 Vijaya Radha (dd) JPS (JPS Office Mayapur - IN) [6371] Reference: Text COM:2676003 by Vijaya Radha (dd) JPS (JPS Office Mayapur - IN) MORE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FOR THE Q&A CONFERENCE --------------------------- > Q: (unknown) > A: So Brihaspati came as, he wanted to teach Lord Chaitanya. Brihaspati > came down as Sarvabhoma Bhatta Acharya, but then when he came he was with > all the mayavadis in Navadvipa, he came preaching about Mayavada. Then he > went off to Jaganatha Puri, but he never taught Lord Chaitanya when he was > a child, a student in Navadvipa. > Later when Lord Chaitanya took sannayasa, he went to Jaganatha Puri. Then > he had an altercation with Nityananda Prabhu. Nityanada Prabhu broke his > danda in three parts and threw it in the river, at Dandabanga. There are > many esoteric explanations on why he broke the danda. Some we may know and > some we may not know. One of the ideas was that Lord Chaitanya, why he > should have one danda, because one danda is for mayavadis? He should have > three dandi, which is for Vaisnavas. So he broke, danda means a stick, a > sannayasi staff, he broke into three. The other is why should he have a > danda at all, because that is for human beings that have to do tapasya. > Being that he is Supreme Lord he doesn't have to do all these things. So > things like that. So anyway Lord Chaitanya became overtly angry, "Who > broke my danda, you have no right to do this, so I'm not going with you > now". He was very angry so he ran ahead, and they couldn't catch up with > him. So he got to the Jaganatha Puri temple first. When he saw Jaganatha > he fainted in the temple, in ecstasy he went in trance. So the priests > thought that maybe he's some crazy guy, they were going to kick him and > beat him. Sarvabhoma Bhatta Acharya seeing his physical signs could > recognize, he was not an ordinary person. And also saw that he wasn't > breathing, nor was he having any heartbeat. It was quite unusual, so he > took him to his house. He tested and found that Lord Chaitanya was simply > breathing very slightly, held a cotton swab by his nose and saw slightly > the fibers were moving. So normally people cannot do that. Can any of you > do that? Then the devotees found Lord Chaitanya, and they said, "We know > how to revive him, he can only be revived by chanting". So then they begin > to chant Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare / Hare Rama > Hare Rama Rama Hare Hare. So then Lord Chaitanya revived. And Sarvabhoma > Bhatta Acharya said, "I'd like to teach you, since you're a Sannayasi in > the Shankara line, you took Sannayasa from Kesava Bharti, who was in the > Shankara line. I'd like to teach you Vedanta Sutra". Lord Chaitanya said, > "Alright, I'd be happy to learn Vedanta Sutra from you". For seven days > Sarvabhoma Bhatta Acharya, mind you he is a Brihasapati, he is teaching > Lord Chaitanya the Shankacharya philosophy of Vedanta Sutra. He reads a > Vedanta Sutra sloka, Janma Dasi Atah, which means that everything is > coming from the Absolute Truth. But then he gives his own indirect > interpretation. The direct interpretation is that since everything is > coming from the Absolute Truth, then everything has varieties and > qualities, therefore the Absolute Truth must also have variety and > quality. How can something come from nothing? How can the quality come > from non-quality? For seven days, Lord Chaitanya just listened and he > didn't say a word. He didn't ask a single question. Normally in this heavy > weighty discussion, topic, you ask some questions. But he had no > questions. After seven days, Sarvabhoma Bhatta Acharya said, "how is it > that you are just listening and you never have any questions? Are you able > to understand what I'm speaking?". He (Lord Chaitanya) said, "I can > understand the Vedanta Sutra that you speak, but I don't understand your > explanation". So that was like throwing the gong-lid down, I understand > the sastra but your explanation is unintelligible. So then he said, "so > then you can explain". Then Lord Chaitanya took the atma Rama verse from > the Srimad Bhagavatam, atma Rama yamunaya. He explains that in sixty-four > different ways, and gave the essence of the Vedanta Sutra through this one > verse of the Srimad Bhagavatam. It was such an erudite explanation. Lord > Chaitanya explained how the teachings of Shankacarya are indirect, and the > Vedanta Sutra is clearly understandable if you take the direct meaning. > And Srimad Bhagavatam is the natural explanation of the Vedanta Sutra. In > the end Sarvabhoma Bhatta Acharya he had been told by his brother-in-law, > I believe it was his brother-in-law Gopinatha Acharya, that Lord Chaitanya > was the avatara of Krishna come as a bhakta. But he didn't believe it. > Then things started to snap together, and he started to pick up that Lord > Chaitanya was more then what it appeared to be. He asked him to reveal who > he really was. Then Lord Chaitanya revealed his form as Krishna to > Sarvabhoma Bhatta Acharya. Then he also took a six-handed form showing > himself as Krishna, Rama, and Lord Chaitanya combined in one. Then > Sarvabhoma Bhatta Acharya surrendered to him. > After that, he became a very enthusiastic devotee. Before he was a very > stiff upper lip kind of, very impersonalist. You know about the smartas? > Is a kind of brahmana, who are very much conscious about rules and > regulations. He was in that line. One day Lord Chaitanya just to test him, > he was late for mongal arotik, so don't feel bad it happens to everyone, > so Lord Chaitanya came from the mongal arotik right into the bedroom of > Sarvabhoma Bhatta Acharya. Good Morning! Sunshine, Hare Krishna. How would > you like Lord Chaitanya to come after you missed mongal arotik? Next day > you'd be on time, right? Lord Chaitanya said, "look it we got maha-prasada > and cashews from the mongal arotik offering, here is some prasadam". He is > still sitting on his bed, he hadn't brushed his teeth, he hasn't done his > morning duties - taken his bath and all the things you normally do. So a > smarta would not eat food without having brushed the teeth, and all these > things. Lord Chaitanya gave him prasada, he had no chance of doing any of > these things. Then he immediately ate the prasada. Lord Chaitanya said, > "how is it being a brahmana you are eating without having bathed". Then he > quoted a sloka saying, that whenever we get prasadam there are no rules > and regulations. Prasadam is Krishna and we should immediately accept. How > many of you can follow that principle? (the devotees present raise their > hands) So you are very advanced. But Balabhadra Prabhu you could not > follow this afternoon. (Balabhadra Prabhu laughs) After they feed so much > prasadam, they offered more and he said no. So like that there are a lot > of pastimes of Sarvabhoma Bhatta Acharya, he is the avatara of > Brihasapati. He was made into a completely pure devotee by Chaitanya > Mahaprabhu's pastime. > > Q: What is the difference between a brahmana and a vaisnava? > A: Once Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura was invited to speak in > front of a big assembly of brahmanas. He gave a big lecture on all the > twelve qualities of a brahmana: tama, dama, tatticshava, being equal, > being controlled, being patient, being clean, religious, practicing > religiosity, knowing religiosity, so on and so forth. He gave all the > twelve qualities of a brahmana. Then all the brahmanas became very > satisfied with this explanation. Then he says that the Vaisnava includes > all these, but also the quality of pure devotion to Krishna. Brahmana > means, who knows Brahman. Brahman is the impersonal aspect of the Absolute > Truth. That means that the brahmana should know what is the spiritual > reality and what is the material reality. Side by side, we should know > both. But the Vaisnava knows Krishna, which is more. Vaisnava knows the > Supreme Personality of Godhead. Brahmanas may not know fully about > Krishna. > > Q: Why do we worship deities? > A: Anybody can say why we worship deities? We cannot see his > sat-cit-ananda form, so we worship his deity form made in his image. He > gives us an opportunity to perform various personal services to the Lord, > and thus further develop our personal relationship. Krishna comes, and His > deity is an avatara - archa avatara. By serving the Lord in His archa > avatara form, then we are able to come closer to him and develop our > Krishna Consciousness. It is one of the nine processes of devotional > service - archana. > > Q: Even though he will be in another form, will we know it's Prabhupada > when we finally get back to Godhead? > A: The things people worry about. (Laughter) He'll be wearing a > nametag. Yes, you will be able to recognize him. > > Q: Forgive the question, how did you attain the state that you are in now? > How can I possibly reach the state of being very close to God? > A: Whatever state I'm in? Georgia. It's by the mercy of Srila > Prabhupada. You can become close to God by getting the mercy of Guru and > Krishna. > > Q: What is the difference between material and spiritual humility and > tolerance? > A: Why do you want to know the difference between material and > spiritual? Isn't it enough to know what is spiritual humility and > tolerance? What is material and what is spiritual? What makes an activity > spiritual or material? The purpose for which it is done. The purpose for > which the activity is done, is what makes it. Things are done for a > material purpose, they are material. If somebody is humble to please > Krishna, then its spiritual humility. If they are tolerant to do their > service for Krishna. If somebody is very tolerant, so that no matter how > many times the temple president asks them to do something they tolerate > it, they never do anything. (laughter) They never get upset, never do > anything. Is that spiritual tolerance? Tolerance means that just like the > scientists they work very hard. They tolerate so many difficulties to make > their discoveries. Mahaguna works so hard to go to school. So many people > go to school here, there are so many universities. If things are done for > some material purpose, it's material. And if it's done for some spiritual > purpose, it's like, the devotees they are told that you are very great, > but they always think no this is just the mercy of Guru and Krishna. They > always say personally that I have no personal qualification. No matter how > many times we ask Prabhupada what's your secret for success, he would say > I simple tried to carry out the instructions of my spiritual master. > > Q: What is the relationship between Krishna and the Devas. > A: Krishna is the original form of Vishnu, and Vishnu is the source of > all the Devas. So all the Devas are servitors of Krishna. So their > relationship is one of master and servant. When the Devas get in trouble, > they pray to Krishna for protection. He bails them out. Many times it > happens. (Text COM:2710035) -------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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