Thread 4: A prayer.

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> Anantarupa Prabhu wrote:

>

> >Yes but without our effort, Krishna will also not give results. To a

> >considerable extent, results *are* up to our own effort and desire.

> >Prabhupada confirmed it by repeatedly quoting: Na hi suptasya simhasya

> >pravishanti mukhe mriga. If the lion is sleeping, he cannot expect the

> >deer to walk into his mouth. Even the mighty lion has to make an effort

> >and chase them. Without effort no result.

>

As I understand this, the meaning is that the result will be the same no

matter what - deer is doomed anyway - if the lion sleeps, destiny will kill

the deer, but the lion will not get the satisfaction. Not that by sleeping

the deer would live, as Krishna showed Arjuna that the armies would die with

or without him.

 

That our effort and desire have **any** effect on the result seems to me to

contradict BG 2.47"..and never consider yourself the cause of the results of

your activities...". Note the "never" - it is a common mistake to slip into

for all of us.

 

Thus Arjuna was encouraged to act in Krishna Consciousness on a higher

platform - serving Krishna WHILE understanding he was not the doer, or cause

of the results. Without "our" effort, we will not get the (passive) benefit

of taking part in the result. Sometimes the battle seems to be going against

us, sometimes for us, but that shouldn't cause us to create a panic

philosophy. Winning is not even important. Better lose with Srila Prabhupada

than win the universe without him, though personally I think that's rather

unlikely. But winning also means we should in the consciousness Lord Krishna

taught Arjuna - understanding we are not the doer.