Thread #8 - Proposal by Bhaktarupa Das

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Janesvara Prabhu wrote, answering Krsna-Dharma Prabhu's suggestions:

> Srila Prabhupada gave a LOT more than scant knowledge of how to implement

> varnasrama-dharma within ISKCON over 26 years ago but NONE of his

> so-called leaders/senior disciples followed the instructions nor made them

> widely known to the devotees of ISKCON.

 

Yes. This is such a sad fact and the source of so many of the present

problems we are facing now in ISKCON. You are right, Prabhu, in my humble

opinion and please go on sending us all these precious instructions from

Srila Prabhupada. Maybe one day we will have a leadership in ISKCON that

will start taking up these instructions seriously.

 

> Your proposal for asrama (spiritual advancement) first and then varna

> later is the opposite of Srila Prabhupada's recommendation:

> "Hrdayananda Goswami: So in varna-asrama college, this varna-asrama dharma

> college, there are the two divisions varna and asrama.

> Srila Prabhupada: First of all varna and when the varna is perfectly in

> order, then there is asrama. Asrama is especially meant for spiritual

> advancement. Varna is general division. It must be there in human

> society. If varna is not there then this is a society of animals. And

> when the varna is working perfectly, then we give them the asrama.

> ...asrama, that is later on."

> When the varna is "working perfectly".

> Why don't we try to accept Srila Prabhupada's proposal for management of

> our society (ISKCON and the rest of the world) which he gave us many years

> ago instead of manufacturing all these other proposals.

 

Such a relief to read these statements! Many thanks Prabhu. Would you agree

to send us your proposal on how to restructure the GBC along the lines of

Varnasrama and respecting Srila Prabhupada's main instructions? Maybe Sri

Rama Prabhu would agree to send you his first 2 texts on this issue. I think

that would be very interesting for all of us on this conference.

 

> (CWSP) Johannesburg Oct. 16, 1975:

> Harikesa: How in the beginning... Let's say you have a king...

> Prabhupada: Beginning Krsna.

> Harikesa: No, no. Let's say you have a king, and he is deciding this

> person is worthy of...

> Prabhupada: No, no. Beginning Krsna. Why don't you read Bhagavad- Gita?

> You don't know?

> Harikesa: No, no. Yes.

> Prabhupada: What is the social arrangement? What is that?

> Harikesa: That Krsna created the four orders.

> Prabhupada: Yes. So you make that four orders, and then society will be in

> order. But you are not taking Krsna's advice. You are manufacturing your

> hellish ideas.

 

Wow! That was an other great one! Especially to Harikesh das, who always

came with his business-like lines of empowerment, and his high

centralization.

 

Please Janesvara prabhu go on sending us quotes from Srila Prabhupada

showing us clearly that according to Daivi Varnasram one can't be at the

same time mainly a Teacher and a manager (or Administrator). There is still

a great confusion on this issue at the GBC's level.

 

Your greatful servant,

Krsna-kirtana dasi.