Thread #8 - Proposal by Bhaktarupa Das

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> > Janesvara Prabhu wrote:

> > "Devotee: Srila Prabhupada, what should ksatriyas be taught?

> > Srila Prabhupada: Ksatriyas should be taught that *he is manager*. *He

> > must see that everyone is engaged* and if there is any fight *he must

> > come forward to fight* this is ksatriya business. *There may be fight,

> > somebody may attack us*. *Not that they simply chant Hare Krsna Hare

> > Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare / Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.

> > No! (Srila Prabhupada laughs) They must come forward. Yes, they are

> > prepared to fight. That is ksatriya." Varnasrama morning walks 1974"

> >

> > See Bhaktarupa Prabhu, Srila Prabhupada didn't say here just chant Hare

> > Krsna and everything will be fine. (Even though we all do know that the

> > Maha-mantra is all powerful to give us love of God.)

>

> He also doesn't say here that if one has the firm faith that if he would

> just chant Hare Krishna then everything would be fine that it wouldn't

> work!! If someone actually had that kind of faith then he wouldn't be a

> ksatriya! One has to do his duty, I never denied that in my previous

> texts. But if someone has great faith in Krishna then his duty may be just

> to chant Hare Krishna no matter what happens -- like Haridas Thakur.

>

> Your servant, Bhaktarupa Das

 

 

I would also add the following from Srila Prabhupada:

 

Prabhupada: Chanting will go on. That is not stopped. But at the same time

the varnasrama-dharma must be established to make the way easy.

Hari-sauri: Well, at least my own understanding was that the chanting was

introduced in the age of Kali because varnasrama is not possible.

Prabhupada: Because it will cleanse the mind. Chanting will not stop.

Hari-sauri: So therefore the chanting was introduced to replace all of the

systems of varnasrama and like that.

Prabhupada: Yes, it can replace, but who is going to replace it? The...

People are not so advanced. If you imitate Haridasa Thakura to chant, it is

not possible.

Satsvarupa: We tell them go on with your job but chant also.

Prabhupada: Yes. Thakaha apanara kaje, Bhaktivinoda Thakura. Apanara kaja

ki. Caitanya Mahaprabhu recommended, sthane sthitah. And if they do not

remain in the sthana, then the sahajiya's chanting will come. Just like the

sahajiyas also have got the beads and..., but they have got three dozen

women. This kind of chanting will go on. Just like our (name withheld). He

was not fit for sannyasa but he was given sannyasa. And five women he was

attached, and he disclosed. Therefore varnasrama-dharma is required. Simply

show-bottle will not do. So the varnasrama-dharma should be introduced all

over the world, and...

Satsvarupa: Introduced starting with ISKCON community?

Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. Brahmana, ksatriyas. There must be regular education.