Guest guest Posted October 11, 2000 Report Share Posted October 11, 2000 > Janesvara wrote: > >While there has been some intelligent commentaries I was wondering why > >anyone thinks anything will change as the result of such an endeavor. I > >am not trying to be negative. I am mostly a very optimistic person in my > >own life, but of course, ISKCON is not a very big part of that life > >either. I simply find it curious that that this new round of attempts to > >change ISKCON "leadership" or non-leadership follows the same methods as > >previously unsuccessful attempts and after some time the comments slow > >and then die out altogether. > > > >If the GBC and other so-called leaders of ISKCON knew, read and listened > >to the pure devotee's proposal to change the movement over 26 years ago > >when he ordered varnasrama colleges in EVERY center of HIS movement but > >NEVER did anything about it, what makes anyone think that we will have > >any effect on their resolve? > > Vaiyasaki answers: > Dear Janesvara Prabhu. You may be right but that does not prevent us from > doing whatever is within our power to serve Srila Prabhupada. Personally, > I am working under Krishna's instruction to Arjuna: "Therefore, without > being attached to the fruits of activities, one should act as a matter of > duty, for by working without attachment one attains the Supreme." (Bg > 3.19) Well, I hope one day to be working under the instruction of Krsna also. But we must remember, Krsna told Arjuna to FIGHT not talk. Arjuna wanted to rationalize the whole problem with his cousins and just say, "We tried for peace but they didn't listen so let's just surrender to God's will and go to the forest and meditate." Krsna did not agree. I think we are going to have to take a much stronger approach to our problem with our misguided "cousins" now holding positions of power. There are legitimate means but they require guts and brains to undertake. This will be more effective and will gain the ear of those leaders very, very quickly. Our talk will be easily dismissed and forgotten. > So there may be a successful outcome or the GBC may completely ignore our > sincere attempt. In either case, both Krishna and Prabhupada will know > that we acted for the benefit of furthering the Krishna consciousness > movement. Thus, there will be no loss. Krishna is in control and His > devotee acts always in service to Him. Therefore, we will not be > disconsolate if there is no result. We will carry on with our own personal > spiritual life and whenever an opportunity arises we will try again. But > ultimately, the results are up to Krishna. Personally, I dislike this approach very much. I do not want to continue to see nor feel the suffering of the citizens of ISKCON including the cows and bulls. This chaos is despicable and to sit idly in talk, talk, talk is not the proper dharma for correcting the situation. The Pandavas would have, no, DID, act differently. The brahmanas may have remained in the forest disinterested or renounced from the worldly situation, but Krsna and the other ksatriyas had a different duty to the people in the service of the Lord. Action is long overdue. Until the GBC hear that actual action is being planned by senior intelligent devotees they will not budge. If the brahmanas, or who we have in ISKCON that claim to be even close to brahmanas (more likely they are good natured intelligent human beings in Kali yuga ASPIRING to be Vedic brahmanas), want to see action they must give quick decisive advice to ksatriyas and then have confidence and detachment that the ksatriyas can fulfill their natural dharma and correct the situation. A means must be devised to seek a consensus amongst the rank and file members to change the situation. Door to door action, internet voting, public outcry and campaigning to present Prabhupada's proposal for varnasrama must occur to create an unstoppable force of change. You will not be successful in a top down strategy. It must be a grass roots majority action to build a true and lasting foundation of change. Don't blame Krsna for our mistakes and lack of strength to resolve the problems. Prabhupada called me a fool for following Bali Mardan. I was ashamed and I will never forget that. I never let it happen again though it caused me great conflicts with the likes of Ramesvara, Tamala, and others and that is Prabhupada's mercy. Hari! Hari! Janesvara dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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