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Krishna Kirtan Mataji wrote:

 

> That is,

> > unless someone is advocating something which boils down to a democracy.

> > Democracy does have some value in checking the abuse of power. But it

> > has its own set of even worse problems.

> > Your servant, Bhaktarupa Das

>

> Here is an interesting excerpt from a conversation with Srila Prabhupada

> in New-Vrndavana in 1969, showing clearly that it was some devotees who

> were against democracy and not Srila Prabhupada:

 

Srila Prabhupada here is talking about committee system. This is not true

democracy, although they are using the term here. Committee means a limited,

selected group which acts by majority vote. Democracy usually means on a

large scale everyone votes.

 

Your servant, Bhaktarupa Das

 

> Hayagriva: ...According to you...If the president is in charge, then if he

> says to cut it (the tree) down, it gets cut down.

>

> Prabhupada: No. The committee. The majority decision will be...

>

> Hayagriva: That's democracy. That's democracy. that's no good.

>

> Prabhupada: Democracy? This is the age of...

>

> Hayagriva: I thought you said we should have enlightened monarchy.

>

> Prabhupada: No. Monarchy is out of date now. when you form a committee...

> But what can I say? If you disagree in that way, then...if you have to

> live together, you have to work together; if you disagree in that way, it

> will be a difficult job...

> Kali-yuga, everything should be managed by society. In bhagavat also. Yes.

>

> Hayagriva: Oh, democracy. in Kali-yuga, democracy.

>

> Prabhupada: Yes. Society. Body.

>

> Hayagriva: This is not best. This is not best. You mention that in the

> books,that this is not very good.

>

> Prabhupada: This is not very good in this sense...But at that time one man

> was so advanced that his order was perfect. Actually these kings like

> Maharaj Pariksit and others, they were consulting learned brahmanas, not

> that they were actually autocrat. No. They used to consult how the

> government should be conducted.

>

> Kirtanananda: They had a council of brahmanas.

>

> Prabhupada: Yes, council of brahmanas. Yes. The brahmanas, they are not

> politicians, but they would give from sastra direction, "You are a king.

> You do like this."

>

> Kirtanananda: There were instances when the king wouldn't follow the

> brahmanas, so they were thrown out, weren't they?

>

> Prabhupada: Yes. There were such instances also. Just like prthu Maharaj.

> His father was dethroned. I think same thing was in England also...

>

> All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

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