Amnesty for sannyasis

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> I've been following these discussions and am quite pleased by the nature

> of their content and mood. And I have appreciated most of what Mahaniddhi

> Prabhu has said thus far. But here, i would like to humbly point out that

> the problem with a sannyasi dropping a piece of bamboo is actually far

> more devastating than that. Sannyasis being the heads of society and the

> gurus for all other asramas, when they do such things it factually wreaks

> various havoc in the subordinate asramas. As Mahaniddhi Prabhu says that

> there is much harm in dropping off a family, well unfortunately that is

> exactly one of the repurcussions to be expected by irresponsible dropping

> of bamboos. Can we not hear: "If even the sannyasis (the gurus of society,

> the heads of society) cannot keep their sacred vows, and are thus

> accomodated so easily by the GBC, then you have no right to criticize me

> for dumping my troublesome wife and family. I was young and immature when

> i married, the marriage was arranged by a tp who later fell down...

> (etc.)"! Is it not?

>

 

 

Certainly, the fall-downs of sannyasis bring about big disturbances

in the society, in the sense you described, exactly. If it wouldn't

be for that, we wouldn't even bother to start considering and

discussing any reforms of sannyas asrama, would we? If nobody

is harmed, so nobody's concern about. Eat halava and be happy

 

Here, with "dropping a bamboo", I particularly meant (though obviously

not nicely expressed) on the proposed situation of "amnesty", where

the above wouldn't be the case. It would be an opportunity to re-examine

one's position without any pressure. This wouldn't be seen as some

irresponsible dropping off the given oats (symbolized with the

piece of a "bamboo"). So nobody harmed. While in the case of a similar

(hypothetically proposed) situation of grhasthas, there it would be

going for the case of dropping something more than one's personal

life style. It would be -- depending children and a wife.

 

I for sure would not advocate "dropping a danda" as some standard

practice that got no harming consequences for any other member of

the society. No. Rather the opposite. But I can understand that

this particular attempt of mine to illustrate why a similar kind

of one-time granting the freedom from the vows in the case of

householders would be quite a different case, it wasn't the most

happy one, nor it was really so badly needed. So, let me rather

withdraw it.

 

 

Thanks for your following this discussion, and for the appreciations.

 

 

 

- mnd