Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 At 08:42 PM 3/13/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > Also, mine is a home standard and not temple standard, so some one here > > with home standard can share their practical applications. > >Jahnu, Braja Sevaki and I will be having a home standard once we're settled >in San Rafael. We hope we can share our realisations as time goes by. > >Babhru prabhu, any hints on maintaining a nice home standard? As you say, it's really a matter of our own inspiration and determination. When my wife and I lived here on the Big Island in '75 & '76, we had mangala arati, sringar (we worshipped Gaura-Nitai and Jangannath), and Bhagavatam class every morning. If we were home at noon, we'd make an offering and offer arati, and the same in the evening. When the then president of the ISKCON farm visited us (Kailasa-chandra), he kept muttering that we must be incredibly strong. (I guess he thought that if you moved out of the temple, there was some sort of unstated rule that you had to smoke weed and have sex all the time.) I just replied that we were trying to follow our spiritual master's instructions as well as we could. It didn't seem like a big deal to us, and it made our lives very sweet. Our lives then were much simpler than they are now; I worked only sporadically and Satyaki didn't work outside our home. And we had no TV or radio. Now our lives are different. We both work, and our morning program is different. My puja takes 75-90 minutes (setting up, worshipping Srila Prabhupada, my shalagrama, and my Girirajas, then cleaning up). We don't have mangala arati; however, when we get our own home, we plan to revive our worship of Gaura-Nitai (Our older daughter, Krishnamayi, worships Lord Jagannath now) and start the morning with mangala arati. It will mean carefully structuring the rest of our day, especially during the week, so we can do our worship and japa, and still get out of the house by 7:00. It will be a challenge. How about you, Mukunda? Your servant, Babhru das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Babhru (das) ACBSP (San Diego - USA) wrote: > Jagannath now) and start the morning with mangala arati. It will mean > carefully structuring the rest of our day, especially during the week, so > we can do our worship and japa, and still get out of the house by 7:00. It > will be a challenge. > How about you, Mukunda? Yes, this sounds familiar, and it brings much larger problems into the picture. One problem is that because they are impelled by the modes of passion and ignorance, the karmis work too hard; and because society (i.e., varnasrama) is symbiotic, these anarthas practically force the rest of us to work too hard as well. Thus we have to stop worshipping Krsna, in many cases, even before sunrise, to get involved in ugra-karma even by 7am. It's a hellish parody of a civilization, as Srila Prabhupada reiterates in his lectures quite often. That's a problem on its own, but it's exacerbated by the fact that we ideally endeavor so much more for sreyas, especially if we're relatively inclined toward things brahminical by nature. If ISKCON's own members aren't entirely satisfied with the calibre of religious mentors available and with its underdeveloped brahminical potential, as I've inferred in your (and others') recent posts, this social vacuum probably has much to do with that. It almost seems a chief characteristic of the decadence of this age, that one has to pay for dharmas that were previously taken as granted. If left to my own devices, I would continue my puja for hours, as many devotees do. This isn't at all excessive, but it is traditional. Gosvami Indirabetiji, a popular kathakara of the Vallabha sampradaya, does seva everyday from 5am until noon, despite a frenetic preaching schedule and many other large scale projects worldwide. I guess that's a role model to shoot for (instead of at). Canakya Pandita said one should always feel satisfied with one's own wife, wealth, and meals; but one should always feel dissatisfied with one's own japa, study, and charity. In such an antithetical environment, the latter isn't very difficult. As I indicated, this opens up a vast arena of relevent topics. MDd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2002 Report Share Posted March 16, 2002 At 07:21 PM 3/15/2002 +0400, Vijaya-venugopala (das) JPS (Persian Gulf) wrote: > > Also, mine is a home standard and not temple standard, so some one here > > with home standard can share their practical applications. > >Here is what we follow at home: > >Rise - 3 am (sleep previous night at 9:30 - 10) >Mangala Ratai - 5 am > >So upto 16 rounds are finished in the morning, before leaving for work at >7:30. This is exemplary. Thanks so much for inspiring us, prabhu. Babhru das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Your still an inspiration to me Applied.Krishna.Consciousness (AT) pamho (DOT) net [Applied.Krishna.Consciousness (AT) pamho (DOT) net] On Behalf Of Babhru (das) ACBSP (San Diego - USA) Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:17 PM Applied Krishna Consciousness; Braja Re: Mangalarati - Application 1 At 08:42 PM 3/13/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > Also, mine is a home standard and not temple standard, so some one here > > with home standard can share their practical applications. > >Jahnu, Braja Sevaki and I will be having a home standard once we're settled >in San Rafael. We hope we can share our realisations as time goes by. > >Babhru prabhu, any hints on maintaining a nice home standard? As you say, it's really a matter of our own inspiration and determination. When my wife and I lived here on the Big Island in '75 & '76, we had mangala arati, sringar (we worshipped Gaura-Nitai and Jangannath), and Bhagavatam class every morning. If we were home at noon, we'd make an offering and offer arati, and the same in the evening. When the then president of the ISKCON farm visited us (Kailasa-chandra), he kept muttering that we must be incredibly strong. (I guess he thought that if you moved out of the temple, there was some sort of unstated rule that you had to smoke weed and have sex all the time.) I just replied that we were trying to follow our spiritual master's instructions as well as we could. It didn't seem like a big deal to us, and it made our lives very sweet. Our lives then were much simpler than they are now; I worked only sporadically and Satyaki didn't work outside our home. And we had no TV or radio. Now our lives are different. We both work, and our morning program is different. My puja takes 75-90 minutes (setting up, worshipping Srila Prabhupada, my shalagrama, and my Girirajas, then cleaning up). We don't have mangala arati; however, when we get our own home, we plan to revive our worship of Gaura-Nitai (Our older daughter, Krishnamayi, worships Lord Jagannath now) and start the morning with mangala arati. It will mean carefully structuring the rest of our day, especially during the week, so we can do our worship and japa, and still get out of the house by 7:00. It will be a challenge. How about you, Mukunda? Your servant, Babhru das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 This is guru, by life example. Applied.Krishna.Consciousness (AT) pamho (DOT) net [Applied.Krishna.Consciousness (AT) pamho (DOT) net] On Behalf Of Babhru (das) ACBSP (San Diego - USA) Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:17 PM Applied Krishna Consciousness; Braja Re: Mangalarati - Application 1 At 08:42 PM 3/13/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > Also, mine is a home standard and not temple standard, so some one here > > with home standard can share their practical applications. > >Jahnu, Braja Sevaki and I will be having a home standard once we're settled >in San Rafael. We hope we can share our realisations as time goes by. > >Babhru prabhu, any hints on maintaining a nice home standard? As you say, it's really a matter of our own inspiration and determination. When my wife and I lived here on the Big Island in '75 & '76, we had mangala arati, sringar (we worshipped Gaura-Nitai and Jangannath), and Bhagavatam class every morning. If we were home at noon, we'd make an offering and offer arati, and the same in the evening. When the then president of the ISKCON farm visited us (Kailasa-chandra), he kept muttering that we must be incredibly strong. (I guess he thought that if you moved out of the temple, there was some sort of unstated rule that you had to smoke weed and have sex all the time.) I just replied that we were trying to follow our spiritual master's instructions as well as we could. It didn't seem like a big deal to us, and it made our lives very sweet. Our lives then were much simpler than they are now; I worked only sporadically and Satyaki didn't work outside our home. And we had no TV or radio. Now our lives are different. We both work, and our morning program is different. My puja takes 75-90 minutes (setting up, worshipping Srila Prabhupada, my shalagrama, and my Girirajas, then cleaning up). We don't have mangala arati; however, when we get our own home, we plan to revive our worship of Gaura-Nitai (Our older daughter, Krishnamayi, worships Lord Jagannath now) and start the morning with mangala arati. It will mean carefully structuring the rest of our day, especially during the week, so we can do our worship and japa, and still get out of the house by 7:00. It will be a challenge. How about you, Mukunda? Your servant, Babhru das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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