Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Between the two of us, I'm the only who has effected some change with a spiritual solution among abused victims. The reunions which I started have done more then all your preaching combined to inspire them in their spiritual life. A critical element of that is the clarity of shelter and justice for without, you have nothing but the greatest hypocracy which is the issue at stake with much of the preaching being done today. Our preaching has been seriously comprised on many fronts by these issues and remains so until we resolve them. Unfortunately, some can not see the critical conection between the two. It is a karmic dynamic that must be resolved until you can progress as a society much as a man can not progress effectively in spiritual life if they are beating up devotees. One destroys the other. One must stop before the other activities of spiritual life can really take full effect. These issues of justice and protection for children must be implemented before we can move to the next step as society of devotees both in our own community as well as the world outside. This is the opportunity that krsna is allowing you to be part of if you have the humility to see these unique service. As for my attendance, I was asked specifically by those on this conference--not Radha, about this situation and I answered accordingly. Who invited you? GBC.Unmoderated (AT) pamho (DOT) net [GBC.Unmoderated (AT) pamho (DOT) net] On Behalf Of Jahnu (das) (San Rafael, CA - USA) Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:19 AM Raghunata (John) Anudasa; GBC Unmoderated What are you doing here? > You want to focus on Krsna and you fee that we are not, so then, why > are you here? Go read out and preach. What are you doing here? I believe it's the other way around. What are _you_ doing here? You say you are here to stop child-abuse. Are you doing that by whining about it here in an ISKCON forum?. In case you hadn't noticed but ISKCON is dedicated to the propagation of Srila Prabhupada's teachings. ISKCON's mission is not to stop child-abuse per se, but to stop material life all together. We all know Srila Prabhupada's opinion about mundane, social or political welfare work. He said that it was useless and pointless. Neither you nor Madhusudani Radha nor any of your cronies seem to be interested in a spiritual solution, so what are you doing here? Ys,Jahnu das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Raghunata wrote: > A critical element of that is the clarity of shelter and > justice for without, you have nothing but the greatest hypocracy which > is the issue at stake with much of the preaching being done today. Our > preaching has been seriously comprised on many fronts by these issues > and remains so until we resolve them. Unfortunately, some can not see > the critical conection between the two. It is a karmic dynamic that must > be resolved until you can progress as a society much as a man can not > progress effectively in spiritual life if they are beating up devotees. > One destroys the other. One must stop before the other activities of > spiritual life can really take full effect. These issues of justice and > protection for children must be implemented before we can move to the > next step as society of devotees both in our own community as well as > the world outside. This is the opportunity that krsna is allowing you to > be part of if you have the humility to see these unique service. Very good point! In the same way as one has to work on stopping the slaughtering of innocent animals one has to also work on stopping child-abuse. Srila Prabhupada writes: -------------------- "Maharaja Pariksit said that only the animal-killer cannot relish the transcendental message of the Supreme Lord. Therefore if people are to be educated to the path of Godhead, they must be taught first and foremost to stop the process of animal-killing as above mentioned. It is nonsensical to say that animal-killing has nothing to do with spiritual realization." (SB 1.3.24, Purport) -------------- I would similarly say that it is nonsensical to say that Child-abuse has nothing to do with spiritual realization. Ys Svarup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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