Selective defense

[Guest guest]

> Your selective attacks were also noted, and that's the reason I

> spoke up. Judging from the comments by other members on your and

> Jahnu's texts, everybody who spoke up felt uncomfortable with your

> attitude. I didn't see a single text on this conference that

> approved of your approach.

 

Please note that it is largely the same crew of people here which were

in Topical Discussions when blatant disregard and ridicule of Srila

Prabhupada were going on. Ekanath posted pure filth and Madhusudani

Radha told us how none of us can know how to properly interpret and

understand Srila Prabhupada teachings. I didn't hear any of you, who

are now so alarmed by my rudeness, speak up then. None of you seemed

to mind in the least the fact that Srila Prabhupada's authority was

being undermined and discredited. You were there yourself and not once

did you speak up against it.

 

Or do you have a selective memory as well? So while it may be fine

sentiments you are displaying here I am afraid they are rather

misplaced.

 

Ys, Jahnu das

[Guest guest]

> That may be, but here I have to agree with the above; if we

> can't even treat each other like ladies and gentlemen, how will we

> treat each other like Vaisnavas?

 

I agree with that, Mukunda Datta prabhu. My doubt is, should we also

treat people like ladies and gentlemen who are not ladies and

gentlemen?

 

> At the very least, if we are sensitive and committed enough to

> recognize that such politeness is what this audience values most,

> then I think there's no reason we can't have fruitful discussions

> about the valid concerns you've raise below; and if we can remain so

> polite and responsive, I expect our discussions on this crucial

> topic to be interesting indeed!

 

I really hope so, and I _will_ be very polite. You are an example of

that it is possible to point out discrepencies and even offenses to

Prabhupada in a polite and gentlemanly way. Thank you for your fine

and gentle example of behavior.

 

> Yes, I saw that too, and while I'm not interested in list

> politics, I would frankly like someone to explain what they feel the

> abovementioned behavioral trend has to do with Vaisnavism, who wants

> it to occur, where, and why.

 

I can't think of any good reasons either. That's why I suggested that

they are forces of Kali, who, knowing or unknowingly, are out to

destroy and undermine ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada's teachings

[Guest guest]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Jahnu (das) (San Rafael, CA - USA) wrote:

> > Judging from the comments by other members on your and

> > Jahnu's texts, everybody who spoke up felt uncomfortable with your

> > attitude. I didn't see a single text on this conference that

> > approved of your approach.

> Please note that it is largely the same crew of people here which were

> in Topical Discussions when blatant disregard and ridicule of Srila

> Prabhupada were going on.

 

That may be, but here I have to agree with the above; if we can't

even treat each other like ladies and gentlemen, how will we treat each

other like Vaisnavas?

 

At the very least, if we are sensitive and committed enough to

recognize that such politeness is what this audience values most, then I

think there's no reason we can't have fruitful discussions about the valid

concerns you've raise below; and if we can remain so polite and

responsive, I expect our discussions on this crucial topic to be

interesting indeed!

 

 

 

> Ekanath posted pure filth and Madhusudani

> Radha told us how none of us can know how to properly interpret and

> understand Srila Prabhupada teachings. I didn't hear any of you, who

> are now so alarmed by my rudeness, speak up then. None of you seemed

> to mind in the least the fact that Srila Prabhupada's authority was

> being undermined and discredited. You were there yourself and not once

> did you speak up against it.

 

Yes, I saw that too, and while I'm not interested in list politics,

I would frankly like someone to explain what they feel the abovementioned

behavioral trend has to do with Vaisnavism, who wants it to occur, where,

and why.

 

MDd