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> How about you and Braja and whoever else is willing, moving back on TD (it

> is still open for a while) and have this all cleared up there?

 

I'm actually not interested in speaking with Ekanath, and never indicated

that I was. Nor anyone else from TD who share similar views. And I wonder

at the validity of keeping TD open 'for a while'. Seems no justifiable

reason to do so.

 

Everyone on TD seems to think they have a 'right' to speak their mind and

'be heard', when that mindset is offensive to Srila Prabhupada and the

philosophy. That is completely bogus. If you don't agree with the philosophy

or with Srila Prabhupada, you're no orphan - but WHY stick around and try to

change the philosophy, or argue it and claim that it is 'intelligent

discussion'. It's not - it's simply offensiveness. Some spiritual

intelligence is required here to establish what is 'discussion' and what is

'offensive'. That this is unclear to most on TD is indicative of that

forum's uselessness.

 

We had this discussion a few weeks ago on GBCU, where MR said that 'we don't

have a consensus for what is right and wrong'. This is patently ridiculous.

We have the philosophy, and we have Srila Prabhupada's teachings and books.

Mukunda datta also brought up siddhanta. These things are very clear as to

what is 'right and wrong'. There is no question when one's intelligence is

clear. If the intelligence is clouded and contaminated, then there are so

many doubts. It takes a certain modicum of humility to be able to identify

one's lack of intelligence - proper intelligence, not the mere ability to

process mundane information. There are plenty out there doing that, and I

don't consider them worthy of respect any more than I do the person who,

dressed as a 'vaishnava', considers certain philosophical precepts 'absurd',

'uninformed', 'ignorant', and so on. This is the topic that disturbs me the

most. And it simply *is* a matter of who is right and who is wrong - that

must be established right from the beginning if this discussion is to

develop, and if this forum is to genuinely represent 'vaishnava discussion'.

There *is* a 'right' and there is a 'wrong', and that's all there is to it -

no mundane "politically correct" considerations required.

 

Your servant

Braja Sevaki dd

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At 05:51 PM 2/26/2002 +0100, you wrote:

> > So it will be interesting to see if Ekanatha Prabhu responds at

> > all now.

>

>After Braja said that she was tired to discuss the derision that goes on TD,

>I thought that it was not necessary anymore to ask Ekanath to respond, so I

>haven't asked him.

>

>However, if you and Braja still want to discuss Ekanath, the content of TD

>and its organizers, I don't know what is the best way to do this. Having

>Ekanath here is a good idea, but, the discussion will become very long

>difficult to follow for those who are not on TD and don't know the context

>in which he made his comments. Because, I guess, this context will have to

>be explained.

>

>How about you and Braja and whoever else is willing, moving back on TD (it

>is still open for a while) and have this all cleared up there?

 

It seems to me that TD would be the most appropriate place to discuss

problems with that conference.

 

Babhru

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