Discussion and Philosophy

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> What I do think is that the Christianity in the time of Jesus

> Christ and just after his immediate departure was certainly

> far more idealistic and pure in the spiritual ideas than perhaps

> the nowadays institutional Church is about. The comparison

> was to be in between the Christian movement "old" some 30 years

> and the modern Christianity 2000 years old. In those days, the

> practitioners of (then) revolutionary spiritual movement were

> risking to be supplied as the food for the hungry lions in the

> Roman's arenas for their expressing out the religious beliefs...

> That says something.

 

I guess the risk factor of speaking out these days is less

>

> The comparison was to make the point how time may influence

> any spiritual movement into the direction of institutionalizing

> (and thus watering down) the pure spiritual ideas and motives.

> Something that I do belive ISKCON is not really sterilized from

> by de fault. And something that I have personally both witnessed

> and experienced in my life.

 

Thank you for explaining this. I personally see the actions of past and

present leaders and members of ISKCON - although labelled 'fanatic' - as

efforts to *not* water down the philosophy. You and I both want the same

thing, but approach from different angles. And that's what matters - the

principle. How you want it and how I want it may differ, but they are

details.

>

> There was absolutely no attempt to compare Christianity

> (of any time) with ISKCON (of any time) in terms of any

> *superiority* (or who nailed whose founder-acarya on the cross

> and who did not). That is what you apparently may be dwelling

> on within your own mind after an apparent assumption that

> the superiority of ISKCON over other religious movements

> has been under the attack. Why do I have to be bothered

> about what's there up in your own mind?

 

For the same reason I have to be *bothered* by what's in yours ie: we're

on a forum where we're *speaking* our minds. Which as far as I can see is a

good thing especially, as I pointed out above, the principle is clear, but

the details are what we are arguing.

 

> The rest is simply an another dragging personal... So you

> can judge me, my electromagnetic poles, my locomotive

> functional stages and the processing central unit as you wish...

> I got used on that already.

 

Well I did say it wasn't a challenge, Mahanidhi, so again please don't take

it as such. I asked you what benefit you perceived there to be in constantly

discussing history and not discussing much in the way of a presentable

solution or, as the conference name implies, the application of our

philosophy and Krishna consciousness to solve the problem.

 

Ys

Braja Sevaki dd