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> Those suffering from cult-membership-phobias may note that none of these

> sources are ISKCON sources, just as none of them are mayavada either; all

> of them represent ancient, well established (if diverse), and bonafide

> Vaisnava communities, like ours.

>

> It's thus appreciable that the respect given to guru as God is a

> universal one in generic Vedic tradition, and without need for further

> examples, I can also assert that it extends well beyond Vaisnavism too.

> I think Srila Prabhupada's books should be understood recognizing this

> broad, traditional context, and that we can benefit greatly from doing so.

>

 

Beautiful verses.

 

The point you make about the universality of the respect given to guru is a

very interesting one, and I would like to see more of it. I'm frankly tired

of the 'cult' labels that uninformed and envious people apply to ISKCON. It

becomes a little tiring. Having to feel on the 'back foot' just because I

worship my guru is a little annoying, especially when it's what Prabhupada

taught. I don't shove it down anyone's throat, so to have the opposite done

to me is just downright unfair :)

 

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Braja Sevaki

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On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Braja wrote:

> > Those suffering from cult-membership-phobias may note that none of these

> > sources are ISKCON sources, just as none of them are mayavada either; all

> > of them represent ancient, well established (if diverse), and bonafide

> > Vaisnava communities, like ours.

> >

> > It's thus appreciable that the respect given to guru as God is a

> > universal one in generic Vedic tradition, and without need for further

> > examples, I can also assert that it extends well beyond Vaisnavism too.

> > I think Srila Prabhupada's books should be understood recognizing this

> > broad, traditional context, and that we can benefit greatly from doing so.

>

> The point you make about the universality of the respect given to guru is a

> very interesting one, and I would like to see more of it. I'm frankly tired

> of the 'cult' labels that uninformed and envious people apply to ISKCON.

 

Uninformed is not always necessarily "envious;" I think it's

important to keep this distinction in mind.

 

 

 

>It

> becomes a little tiring. Having to feel on the 'back foot' just because I

> worship my guru is a little annoying, especially when it's what Prabhupada

> taught. I don't shove it down anyone's throat, so to have the opposite done

> to me is just downright unfair :)

 

Good point. The GBC itself may have initiated a lot of this "guru

is only a relative authority" nonsense when it concocted its system of

bogus zonal acaryas, and consequently had to further concoct some means to

undo the karmic mess this created--in what was largely tantamount to

outlawing the highly beneficial example of guru worship.

 

MDd

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