Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Dear Dhira Krsna Prabhu, Please accept my best wishes. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Bhakta vigna-vinasa Nrsimhadeva ki-jaya! > >Though I know next to nothing about Cricket I am in India now and the > >country is under the spell of World Cup fever. > > > >Anyway, my prediction is that India will win the World Cup this year. > > > >Shyama You wrote: > > So even Shyama was wrong in his prediction. India lost. > > Maybe devotees would better not engage in predicting games of chance. > Others may put their money on it, based on such predictions. Is that what > vaisnavas are supposed to do? > > Your servant, > Dhira Krsna dasa This is the risk that astrologers take when making public predictions; that on occasion, hopefully rarely, the predictions will go wrong. I have outlined in a separate text "When Predictions Go Wrong" more on this matter. I take your remark "EVEN Shyama was wrong" as tacit recognition of the fact that many times in the past I was right. For example: 1) I was right when I said that Russia would not enter the conflict in Kosovo as a combatant when others were predicting WW III. 2) That Y2K would be a non-issue while others were making Dooms Day predictions such as the following from the "Apocalypse 1999? (Are you ready?)" forum (this is not an astrological prediction but I know plenty of those abounded on this and other forums) I am blocking out the names to save these people from embarrassment. This text will sound funny now but people were deadly serious about it then: ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Text PAMHO:1696175 (42 lines) XYZ 18-Sep-98 01:03 -0400 Cc: Apocalypse 1999? (Are you ready?) [16] "Doom's Day" predictions & preparation suggestions --------------------------- XYZ wrote: > Our rural communities are a preparation for that. But I wonder what can we > do in an totally urban area, where we have no chance of growing food and, > despite beeing devotees, share the same life-style of karmis (supermarket, > computers, cars, buildings etc.). What we can do is move to the countryside. But better to do that before there is no more fuel, the phones stop working, the gas is cut off, the electric light is off, the water is turned off, the banks are closed, and the shops are shut. > What I can think of is: > - forming groups to address the matter and prepare (obvious); Different places have different situations, needs and possibilities. What is locally feasible somewhere might not be feasible elsewhere. > - get some land; > - stock long-lasting food like grains, canned-food etc.; > - leave as little money as possible in the bank; > - don't invest in risky things like stocks (perhaps gold is good - this is > vedic); > - have all your computer data printed in case computers fail; > - go for portable non-computer-dependent alternative energy sources like > wind, solar power etc (install in your land); > - survival and other useful courses like first-aid, basic building > techniques, camping and so on (and buy the items needed for these); - I would add at least two things: -get prepared to defend your community. -store seeds (non-hybrid obviously). > We can build a common list and put it on the web and/or file area. It would be interesting to hear from those who are already taking precautions. your servant, ABC das (Text PAMHO:1696175) ------ ------- End of Forwarded Message ------ 3) Debunking the many "end of world predictions" associated with various eclipses and "alignments of planets" that would get many people including devotees into a state of hysteria. 4) Predicting that India and Pakistan would not go Nuclear because of the Kargill incident. 5) And, of course last May when India and Pakistan where actually on the brink Nuclear War and countries were calling back diplomats from embassies and multinational corporations were shutting down offices and recalling staff. I predicted that there would be no nuclear war; there would be little loss of life, that India would win a diplomatic victory and that the whole thing would be over in four weeks. All of which took place in exactly the time span predicted. What I noticed is that with the exception of Amoghalila Prabhu no one ever congratulated me or acknowledged that my previous predictions were accurate. Yet now that I have made a mistake it is quickly pointed out. Why this incongruous behavior? Regarding your further comments: > Maybe devotees would better not engage in predicting games of chance. > Others may put their money on it, based on such predictions. Is that what > vaisnavas are supposed to do? At least on this side of the ocean sports are not considered games of chance. That title is relegated to games like roulette, dice, card games, slot machines, etc. But when it comes to gambling people will gamble on everything including who will win an election, stock market trends and the outcome of a war. Some would even call what the USA has recently done in Iraq as a huge gamble-a gamble not just of money but also of lives. Since I do not gamble nor do I associate with gamblers I do not look at everything as a betting opportunity--atmavat manyate jagat "as I am so I think the world to be." Hence I never even considered that people would gamble based on what I said. If they do that is their problem not mine. I see no problem in predicting the outcome of sporting events-which to some extent resemble warfare-as a good practice for predicting on the more deadly pursuits of mankind. Sporting events take place more frequently than wars and are less bloody but nonetheless a contest of wills on the playing field rather than the battlefield. However, now that you have mentioned it I can see that there are foolish people who will wager money based on such a prediction coming from a reliable source. So in the future I will practice in silence and not publish my results. Yours in the service of my eternal master Srila Prabhupada Shyamasundara Dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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