Guest guest Posted September 29, 2002 Report Share Posted September 29, 2002 The following text was sent me by Dinanatha Prabhu a close disciple (X?) of Sanjay Rath and being sent to relevant Jyotish lists. It seems that there has been some serious chicanery going on is some quarters of the Jyotish world. As in every field there are the honest practitioners and then there are the cheaters and the cheated. Or as I always say "Astrology is perfect; astrologers are not." For more info on how to tell the good from the bad please read: http://www.shyamasundaradasa.com/Shyama_site/what_is_jyotish/what_is_vedic_a strology/what_is_vedic_astrology_1.htm Since the URL is long copy and past the two parts into your browser. It looks like there will be more hot news coming out of this story and I will keep you informed as I find out more. yhs Shyamasundara Dasa www.ShyamasundaraDasa.com Dinanatha Das [dnd (AT) dinanatha (DOT) com] Saturday, September 28, 2002 8:29 PM Shyamasundara Dasa Re: SJVC sited hacked Dear Group members, Jaya Jagannatha! After fallacious writings of Robert Koch that I have hacked SJVCUSA.ORG web site and so many other untrue things, again I have no option other than to defend myself. Robert Koch has been intentionally harassing myself for quite some time now and simply said I am really sick and tired of his lies and if he continues like this I will have no other choice but to take legal action against him. To remind all of you SJVC-USA has been formed on explicit order/desire of Sanjay Rath and most of the work in registering SJVC-USA as an religious non-profit organization was done by Kusa devi. Many of you have ordered Sanjay's books and Sanjay's tapes that Kusa made available to interested audience and of course all the profits of that have gone to SJVC-USA account (unlike money collected by Laxmi (Lynne Kary) and Brendan for conferences, books and tapes that has gone to their personal accounts and is still today unaccounted for, so if you are ordering something from laxmi know that you are cheated). Simultaneously SJVC-USA has been incorporated as non-profit corporation in the state of New Jersey with it's bank account and all other legalities and was operating and still is operating without any problems. The 3 trustees or directors of the SJVC-USA as per Sanjay Rath's agreement are: Sruta Kirti Das (Director), myself (Dinanatha Das - Secretary) and Brenda Bon (Kusa's friend who agreed to be trustee for legal purposes while Kusa was acting as a Treasurer). All of this started in 1999 when most of you have never even heard of SJVC and SJVC-USA. When the organization was incorporated a web site www.SJVCUSA.org has also been started and maintained mainly by Sanjay Rath. I registered the domain name and web site and initial payment for web site was done by Narasimha Rao and all subsequent payment were borne by myself. SJVC-USA has been incorporated in New Jersey with address: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. Same information was presented to IRS (Internal Revenue Service) who was actually checking our web site to see if we are differing from the rules govern by non-profit organizations. www.SJVCUSA.org was never meant to be a web site of any other organisation than SJVC-USA registered in New Jersey with office at: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. So by accusing me that I hacked www.sjvcusa.org web site because I included valid legal information about SJVC-USA organization on the web site of the same organization, Robert openly admits that he hacked www.sjvcusa.org site and thus he is risking legal action and damages compensation claim against himself for unauthorized access to www.sjvcusa.org, presenting false and misleading information on the same site and unauthorized use of registered corporate name SJVC-USA. Personal legal actions and damage compensation claims against Robert by damaged trustees/directors of SJVC-USA (positions that Robert was unlawfully claiming for himself and others) are also likely to follow. In recent past Sanjay Rath wanted to change the SJVC-USA trustees and appoint Robert, Brendan and Laxmi instead of original trustees mentioned above. After presenting the matter to our lawyer and consulting him he advised us that it would be very harmful for a religious non-profit organization to do as Sanjay proposed. Our lawyer made several points: 1. Change of all trustees with new ones is not welcome in the eyes of IRS, adding trustees instead is advisable 2. Proposed head of organization (in this case Robert Koch) is working directly against the principles of SJVC and thus endangering the legal and non-profit status of SJVC. In the bylaws of SJVC is stated that SJVC is meant for free propagation of Jyotish knowledge (while Robert is charging for teaching) and also by definition a non-profit organization is not meant for a personal gain of any one individual (Robert is for many years using position of SJVC Guru to attract new clients and students and thus benefiting from his position in SJVC, you can still see this on his web site: http://robertkoch.com/robert.html and you can imagine what would happened if he would be legally in charge for SJVC-USA) 3. Other proposed trustee Laxmi (Lynne Kary) to start with lied to Sanjay to get admission to SJVC and also has been involved with drugs and weapons smugglers (one of them was her ex-husband: Hansaduta Swami which was sentenced to jail for many years because of illegal use of drugs and weapons and smuggling of the same Sanjay was also informed about this on several occasions by myself and Kusa devi and than he made a decision that Robert, Brendan and Laxmi can form their own organization independent from existing SJVC-USA registered in NJ and that has registered office at: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077 Above 3 points, as mentioned by our lawyer, especially after 9/11 when it was discovered and determined by IRS that many Islamic charities in the USA were using their non-profit status to collect charity and than they were sending that charity to fund radical Islamic militant organizations (including Al-Queda) would deeply risk our non-profit status and could bring to SJVC-USA many unnecessary legal complications especially because part of SJVC-USA funds was supposed to go to India to help SJVC in India. As we know many Islamic militant organizations are present and are becoming increasingly active in India (which we could witness in recent shooting in Swami Narayan temple in Gandhi Nagar). Seeing the history of some of the proposed trustees our lawyer couldn't say anything else than what he mentioned in above points and conclude that persons like Laxmi and Robert are totally legally unfit to be trustees of SJVC. Knowing that Laxmi is another drop out from ISKCON like Robert it is easy to see that spiritually are not much more fit than what they are legally to be part of SJVC. The only person from proposed 3 names that could be fit as additional SJVC trustees was Brendan, who seems to be nice guy but deeply mislead by Robert and Laxmi. In 1999 Sanjay has asked Robert to become Jyotish Guru which former declined on the grounds that because he is charging (meaning ripping off) his students for Jyotish lessons he cannot do it and that because he is busy with doing charts for his clients he has no time for involvement in SJVC. Sanjay replied saying that SJVC Guru assignment is for life and not temporary and in the future if he wants he can take up that role (which didn't have to wait for long after Robert realized that being SJVC Guru is not so bad and generates more clients to be ripped off) This is how our Robert become SJVC Guru. Starting from that time Sanjay was warning him that he actually cannot be SJVC Guru and at the same time charge for teaching which was doing and Robert was quite proudly defying that warning of Sanjay. But how Robert who was initiated by Srila Prabhupada came into that pitiful condition that he just didn't care for orders and principle of any of his Gurus? While living in the ISKCON temple in India our Robert has learned little bit of Jyotish and understood that this could be quite good business on the West especially in the places like USA and he simply moved to USA and started his own business: Jyotish consultations and lessons. While for the consultations traditionally (if we follow the parampara which he obviously didn't even dream of) he could accept donations while teaching was supposed to be free. Of course, why would he? After dropping out from ISKCON he was quite free to break all the rules and principles of Gurus and parampara. So first he betrayed his first Guru Srila Prabhupada and than he didn't want to follow the order of the second guru. This type of behavior in Vedic culture is regarded as unchaste just like when woman at the time of marriage gives vows and than she stops following them and jumps to some other man.Similarly Robert at the time of initiation by Srila Prabhupada has given him lifetime vows which he is not following for many, many years. On the other hand whenever someone mentions this to Robert he just becomes uncontrollably mad and angry at that person that he cannot control himself, as you could see from his last letter where he was accusing me that I hacked SJVC's web site. As you can see Robert has all the "good" qualities of Guru and spiritual leader. He was always a looser and will continue to be one. To conclude only legal SJVC-USA organization in the USA is the one incorporated in the state of New Jersey (and there is no other), has registered office at: 1504 Riverton Road, Cinnaminson, N.J. 08077. Again, there is no other SJVC-USA like Robert & Co. are claiming, they are simply misleading you and lying to you. Any unauthorized use of SJVC-USA corporate name, it's web site (www.sjvcusa.org), collections and fund raising done in the name of SJVC-USA by unauthorized persons are legally punishable and offenders will be legally prosecuted to the maximum possible extent. I am sorry that I have to act like this, but after tolerating long lasting misconduct of Robert Koch as so called SJVC Guru, constant unauthorized use (hacking) of www.sjvcusa.org and giving false and misleading information on the same web site, constant hassle and lies that he was spreading about SJVC and myself personally, I had to resort to this step because someone has to put Robert in his place. Hare Krishna, Dinanatha Das (SJVC-USA Secretary) .. - Robert A. Koch sjvc Cc: Achyuta ; varahamihira ; vedic astrology Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:22 PM [Hare Rama Krishna] Re: [sjvc] SJVC Site - Hacked? Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Jyotish gurus and sisyas, Narayan Iyer has written as follows: >Om Jaya Jagganath >----------------- > >Namaste Friends, > >It appears to me that the contents of the following link >http://www.sjvcusa.org/org/organisation.htm > >has been hacked. > >I am also pretty sure who was behind all this. Robert & Brendan's >name have been removed and instead Dinanatha's name is replaced. >Hope this situation is rectified immediately. > >Regards >Narayan Narayan, you are absolutely correct. The removal of myself, Brendan, and Laksmi is indeed part of the insidious workings of Dina-natha. For those who may not know the history, let me provide a brief summary: Dina-natha had been removed from any spiritual, instructing, or administrative duties in SJVC, due to continuous and reckless verbal offenses committed to not just myself, but Brendan, Laksmi, and even Sanjay. He had been given numerous warnings, and encouragement to "bury the ax", to try to diffuse his unreasonable and unconscionable anger, and learn how to work cooperatively. Still, he ignored these requests and continued to launch a self-determined assault on all those who had been personally hand-picked by Sanjay to head the SJVC in north and south Americas. Why he has chosen to embark on this hurtful and destructive path, only Lord Sri Jagannatha Mahaprabhu knows the answer. Let all be advised, that Dina-natha has no standing whatsoever in SJVC-USA. His reprehensible activities of hacking into and dismembering the SJVC site should be ignored, while in the meantime, we shall look into the technical side of this matter further. No one shall give donations of any kind in the name of SJVC to Dina-natha, nor is he to be given any regard as a prior member of this organization, nor should anybody pay attention to what he says. His mindless and delusional activities shall be ignored. If anybody has any doubts as to the true intent of Sri Sanjay Rath in these matters, then he/she may contact him directly. In the service of Jyotir-vidya, Robert ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> and, http://www.jyotishdiscovery.com or Ph: 541.318.0248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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