Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 Ananda the Rascal (to differentiate him from Ananda the Good who lives in New Talavan) writes on CHAKRA: "Although astrology has been proven to be considerably less accurate than random guessing so far as predicting the future is concerned, Srila Prabhupada believed in its theoretical efficacy (although wisely warning devotees not to consult astrologers). The fact that he seemed to accept such charlatanry is a reflection of his culture and upbringing, but it does not mean that his explanations of sastra and bhakti are unsound. I only speak against astrology because some devotees persist unwisely in claiming some sort of centrality or essentiality for it. You know, bhakti is not such a fragile house of cards that an attack on astrology will somehow cause the collapse of bhakti." I guess Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati, who was a great astrologer, must be a great charalatan, what to speak of Gargamuni who did Lord Krsna's chart, or Nilambara Chakravarti who did Lord Chaitanya's chart. Then again Parasara Muni, father of Vyasadeva, and himself speaker of the Visnu purana, is one of the greatest charlatans, because he is the author of Brhat Parasara Hora Sastra. Maitreya Rsi, principle character of the 3rd canto Srimad Bhagavatam, and teacher of Vidura, is equally a charlatan, because it was to him that the charlatan Parasara spoke the Brhad Parasara Hora Sastra too. Not to be left out the list of great charlatans is Narada Muni who is practically the spiritual master of every great personality in the Srimad Bhagavatam. Naradara Rishi writes: "The excellent science of jyotisha (astrology) comprising of Siddhanta, Samhita and Hora as its three branches, is the clear 'eye' of the Vedas". Narada Samhita 1.4 All the greatest astrologers throughout the history of Vedic culture (Bhrgu, Vasista, etc) have all been great Vaisnavas. Why then, have Vaisnavas engaged in such "charlatanry?" Because jyotisha is one of the shad-vedangas -- six limbs of the vedas. >From my forth coming book "Foundational Topics in Vedic Astrology:" "The Vedas have six appendices called the shad-vedangas, the six limbs of the Vedas. They are: siksa, chanda, nirukta, vyakarana, kalpana, and jyotisha. Siksa is the science of proper articulation and pronunciation of the Vedic phonemes (sounds). Siksa is essential because mantras are precise sound formulas that must be executed properly if the desired result is to manifest. Chanda is the science of poetic meter; in the Vedas there are eleven chandas such as Gayatri, Usnik, Anustup, etc.(SB 11.21.41). Nirukta is the science of etymology and lexicology; a famous nirukta was compiled by Yaska. Vyakarana is the science of grammar. In ancient times Panini's Ashtadhayayi replaced all other works on the subject because of his masterful presentation and conciseness; it is still the standard. Jiva Goswami wrote his own grammar called Harinamamrta Vyakarana, which has the edifying quality of glorifying Sri Krsna. Kalpana is the science of rituals and observations (viddhi). Jyotisha is the science of astronomy and astrology. The Yajur and Rig Vedas have sections attached to them dealing with astronomy, whereas the Atharva Veda has a section dealing with astrology. Aside from the Vedas, many Rishis, Vedic sages, such as Parasara, Garga, Narada, Sukadeva, Brghu, etc., wrote on this science and preserved it in their own disciplic lineage. These authentic chains of gurus and disciples are called guru-parampara or sampradaya. The first pair of veda-angas: siksa and chanda teach us how to speak the Veda. The second pair: nirukta and vyakarana teach us how to understand the meaning of the Veda. While the third pair: kalpana and jyotisha teach how to use the Veda; this idea of how to use the Vedic knowledge will be expanded upon as we go on. Each vedanga is related to a bodily limb. Prasna Marga states: "The Vedas have six limbs, viz., Jyotisha, Kalpana, Nirukta, Siksha, Vyakarana and Chandas. For the Vedas, the six important limbs, viz., the feet, the face, the hands, the eyes, the nose, and the ears are represented by Chandas [feet] , Vyakarana [face], Kalpa [hands], Jyotisha [eyes], Siksha [nose] and Nirukta [ears] respectively." Jyotisha is given the epithet vedachaksus, the eye of the Veda, because it allows us to see through opaque time and to understand how the gunas are working. In the Vedas great stress was made on performing sacrifices and other observances at the correct time in order that such sacrifices and observances bear fruit; this is one area of jurisdiction of the Vedanga Jyotisha." _________________ When I first joined the BI in 1978, HH Swarupa Damodara Swami (then Brahmacari) told me that Srila Prabhupada wanted that astrology be scientifically studied in the BI. Must have been one of his "colorfully eccentric" moments. Not content with belittling Srila Prabhupada, Ananda the Rascal and his friends like Madhusudhani Radha dd and Vipramukhya Swami (who published his text) are intent on attacking any aspect of Vedic culture (they despise the Manu Samhita) which lies outside their miniscule capacity to understand. And, sadly this is now being tolerated, nay it is protected "free speech". Protected by the GBC EC. After being tolerated blasphemy and minimization of Srila Prabhupada and Vedic culture will be encouraged more and more in ISKCON, until ISKCON is dead. yhs shyama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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