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>The film also speaks about the effects to V. to be: Harm to the immune

>system, immune diseases, chronic fatigue syndrom, damage to reproduction,

>learning disabilities, brain damage and death.

>The film also tells about the ugra stuff contained in V´s, about coverups

>from doctors and about the economic interests behind V. etc.

 

Here's an interesting book to read: 'Devils, Drugs and Doctors' by H.W.

Haggard, MH.D.

and a letter posted to the TIMES by Surgeon General Sir Watson Cheyne. M.P.

on October the second (some time ago) said:

 

"Medicine is not an exact science. A good deal of what they were being

taught was not true. When they came to deal with life, they knew so little

about the living body that they could not be dogmatic. They could only lay

down hypotheses which would hold for a day and then pass away : and just as

the teachings of seventy years ago seemed to them very curious and not very

sound, so it would be exactly the same forty years hence."

 

The great Dr. Sydenham pooh-poohed vaccination and said that smallpox was

quite a simple illness to cure, provided the patient was properly nursed.

 

vaccination:

 

Dr. Marie Stopes wrote:

...(certain alternative) medicines are only swallowed or rubbed on and cannot

do a fraction of the frightful injury to our race done by the medical

proession's injections into the bloodstream and tissues, of active virus,

dirt and anti-toxins........................

she also wrote: the most unscrupulous piece of advertising I have ever seen

was recently put out by the medical profession itself urging that foul

poison. pasteurised milk, on the public.

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> The lateMr. F.A. MacQuisten, K.C., M.P., said of that commodity: "some

> people think that peasteurised milk is from the pasture. It is nothing but

> half-boiled milk lacking in nourishment. If you give to calves they die. If

> you give it to rats they fail to reproduce their species. It is a form of

> birth control." (printed in Daily Mirror, March 2nd, 1940.)

>

> The solution, as Srila Prabhupada said, is to grow our own food and keep our

> own cows.

 

I dropped the response to the AyurVeda as weren't we requested to do so?

 

Also, didn't Srila Prabhupada teach pasturisng milk? Or is there a

difference

between What Srila Prabhupada taught and what pasturisation is?

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> Also, didn't Srila Prabhupada teach pasturisng milk? Or is there a

> difference between What Srila Prabhupada taught and what pasturisation is?

 

Could somebody search through the folio in this regard?

 

Ys UD

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Madhava Gosh replied with the previous quote:

 

> The lateMr. F.A. MacQuisten, K.C., M.P., said of that commodity: "some

> people think that peasteurised milk is from the pasture. It is nothing but

> half-boiled milk lacking in nourishment. If you give to calves they die.

If

> you give it to rats they fail to reproduce their species. It is a form of

> birth control." (printed in Daily Mirror, March 2nd, 1940.)

>

> The solution, as Srila Prabhupada said, is to grow our own food and keep

our

> own cows.

 

I dropped the response to the AyurVeda as weren't we requested to do so?

 

Also, didn't Srila Prabhupada teach pasturisng milk? Or is there a

difference

between What Srila Prabhupada taught and what pasturisation is?

 

Radha Krsna das: Yes I only replied to Ayuvedic conf as they sent me one. It

was a continuing conversation.

 

Also we have a quote for those who feel the agricultural way of health is

alright for some, but maybe not for everyone??? According to the author of

the Garbadan Samskaras book in France it is quoted in sastra that for this

age it is through food that we should purify ourselves or through the medium

of good food we will remain in good health all our lives; rather than the

other extremely refined sciences, that many cannot understand. Maybe someone

with folio can find this reference, I have only heard of it from this

source.

 

Everyone has to eat food, so for poor and rich alike good food should be

made available, thus imporving the health of the general public.

 

'The health of a nation is it's greatest asset.' (Howard)

 

This is an interesting point: Pasteurizing. The above quote says it is

nothing but half boiled milk. Prabhupada said boil the milk, which destroys

anti bodies, I understand.[And what is that -you should boil milk three

times] And as it is only an exceptional few who can get to drink really

fresh milk, most of the population will have to boil it. This is my

understanding.

 

Incidentally there is nothing quite like FRESH milk straight from Mother

Cow. It has to be tasted to be beleived. And many farmers I meet tell me

that if their leys are of a good mixture, being fully ORGANIC - all their

FODDER SHOULD BE ORGANIC, including many wild herbs and flowers etc. it will

taste sweet anyway - (thus saving sugar?, If I sweeten, which I don't

always do; it depends on the source of the milk, I prefer to use honey which

we can also make on our farms.)

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Louis Pasteur discovered that if milk was boiled it was safe. He is counted

as one of the most intelligent men in history. In Indian villages they

have been boiling the milk since time immemorial. They keep it hot on the

stove and it stays safe all day. The left over is made into yogurt

 

Modern technology has brought about very fast, pressurized, pasteurization,

which destroys the good bacteria also. Some cartons give the info about

how it was pasteurized.

The worst is super hot super fast. That milk is sealed is a special carton

and doesn't need refrigeration because there are no bacteria.. Foolish

consumers think that is an improvement.

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When I first became a grhasta and moved out of the temple I was a little

poorer than I am now, we did not have a refridgerator for a few months, we

boiled the milk twice a day, a 4 liter bag lasted 3 to 4 days.

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