Guest guest Posted March 11, 1999 Report Share Posted March 11, 1999 Ugresa das wrote: >This is partially true but not relevant for humans. Non of the animals is >supposed to eat anything cooked. So why should they tolerate boiled milk as >well, as humans do who boil most of their food. If you eat grass the whole >day it might not be healthy for you but its more than fine for the cow. >Another factor is the freshness of the milk. Bacteria counts are doubling >every half an hour in un boiled milk. If you drink the milk strait from the >(clean and healthy) cow it might be fine but if you have to wait a few days >until you get the milk, it might contain enough bacteria already to make >you sick. Yes I am talking about drinking milk, fresh straight from the cow. Of coarse the point is that fresh is best. Not all of us have the facility to get fresh milk. I grew up on this, and I'm hardly ever ill! Yes, and of course the cow should be healthy. If there is any doubt or the milk cannot be taken immediately then it should be boiled, and drunk as fresh as possible. (We are devotees, so it goes without saying that it must be offered) The point is that pasteurized milk in the shops is far from fresh. They pasteurize it to make it last as long as possible. Also they pasteurize it and store it. This is not what Prabhupada said. If you boil it fresh and offer it it is obviously much more valuable than if it is boiled and then stored. >> It is nothing but >> half-boiled milk lacking in nourishment. If you give to calves they die. >> If you give it to rats they fail to reproduce their species. The point is that if you give pasteurized milk to calves, they die. I am not saying we SHOULD give it to them or even ask them to tollerate it. And according to this quote pasteurized milk means it has been (half boiled) and then stored. Your servant, Radha Krsna das. PS Goats milk is another subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 1999 Report Share Posted March 15, 1999 Raw milk contains more than 25 different active food enzymes (protease, lactase, lipase etc.) which are vital for the proper digestion of the milk. The enzymes are destroyed when the milk is heated above 40 degrees Celcius. When the enzymes are destroyed, the calves cannot digest the milk properly on their own, that is why the get sick and die. According to western naturopathy, consumption of fresh raw milk is also the best for humans. Is it really a fact that Ayurveda recommends boiling of milk, and if so, what are the explanations given in the texts? YS, Ole Alstrup ---"COM: Radha Krsna (das) ACBSP (GB)" <Radha.Krsna.ACBSP (AT) com (DOT) bbt.se> wrote: > > [Text 2152972 from COM] > > Ugresa das wrote: > > >This is partially true but not relevant for humans. Non of the animals is > >supposed to eat anything cooked. So why should they tolerate boiled milk as > >well, as humans do who boil most of their food. If you eat grass the whole > >day it might not be healthy for you but its more than fine for the cow. > > >Another factor is the freshness of the milk. Bacteria counts are doubling > >every half an hour in un boiled milk. If you drink the milk strait from the > >(clean and healthy) cow it might be fine but if you have to wait a few days > >until you get the milk, it might contain enough bacteria already to make > >you sick. > > Yes I am talking about drinking milk, fresh straight from the cow. Of coarse > the point is that fresh is best. Not all of us have the facility to get > fresh milk. I grew up on this, and I'm hardly ever ill! Yes, and of course > the cow should be healthy. If there is any doubt or the milk cannot be > taken immediately then it should be boiled, and drunk as fresh as possible. > (We are devotees, so it goes without saying that it must be offered) > The point is that pasteurized milk in the shops is far from fresh. They > pasteurize it to make it last as long as possible. Also they pasteurize it > and store it. This is not what Prabhupada said. If you boil it fresh and > offer it it is obviously much more valuable than if it is boiled and then > stored. > > > >> It is nothing but > >> half-boiled milk lacking in nourishment. If you give to calves they die. > >> If you give it to rats they fail to reproduce their species. > The point is that if you give pasteurized milk to calves, they die. I am not > saying we SHOULD give it to them or even ask them to tollerate it. And > according to this quote pasteurized milk means it has been (half boiled) and > then stored. > > > > Your servant, > > Radha Krsna das. > PS Goats milk is another subject. > _______ DO YOU !? Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 1999 Report Share Posted March 17, 1999 >Raw milk contains more than 25 different active food enzymes >(protease, lactase, lipase etc.) which are vital for the proper >digestion of the milk. The enzymes are destroyed when the milk is >heated above 40 degrees Celcius. When the enzymes are destroyed, the >calves cannot digest the milk properly on their own, >that is why the get sick and die. >According to western naturopathy, consumption of fresh raw milk is >also the best for humans. >Is it really a fact that Ayurveda recommends boiling of milk, and if >so, what are the explanations given in the texts? >YS, Ole Alstrup Thank you for this reply. Protease, lactase, lipase etc.,.... I wondered why I was always healthier than many others I've known, but I did always put it down to growing up in the outdoor life and eating all FRESH food. I find the subjects of Naturopathy, Homeopathy and Bio-chemistry fascinating simple to use and as one doctore writes about Bio-chemic medicine - the most scientific.. I know that boiling milk makes it safe...as we have discussed. Srila Prabhupada recommended this. It also burns up mucus - if you have too much - (but you shouldn't). How many people can get access to Fresh milk from protected cows? These sciences of medicine, or any sciences of medicine, may not suit everyone as Jayadvaita Maharaja points out. But that is the purpose of these conferences. To discuss and learn from each other and to progress down the path of Devotional Service to Krsna You can ask the Ayurveda conference about what Ayurveda says on boiling milk. I personally do think that the science and the results of agriculture however does affect everyone, as everyone has to eat food.. As previously quoted: >>Everyone has to eat food, so for poor and rich alike good food should be >>made available, thus imporving the health of the general public. >>'The health of a nation is it's greatest asset.' (Howard) The spiritual health of a nation is it's chanting of Hare Krsna! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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