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Dear Carol

 

Thanx for the extensive effort...

 

<<At twenty eight I had a job five kids, husband and a garden you blossom

where you are planted.

 

Well, you can't change the past, but that is defenitely not yet my future.

Need to do some more growing up before I would choke in it.

 

<<Yes, opening the doors during the day helps. But the pressurized gas is

sorta like an extra side dressing of manure tea. It will make up for

extremely short days and if the green house gets full sun all the time you

can really get a great crop it encourages your plants to grow very quickly

and become very healthy. Your crops will be growing under extreme

circumstances, so you give them all the love and advantage they can get. In

extreme cold it is usually also very dry. So you keep the floor damp to add

humidity. CO2 is like another kind of fertilizer it really works!

 

That seems a good idea, if you consider the amount of sunshine or just plain

daylight we get in the summer (upto 24 hours a day). It would really boost

them with some extra nutrients and co2.

But still you have to keep a balance, right ? I can imagine they would

appriciate more co2 in the summer, but not so much in the winter (when they

hardly get sunlight). They won't get overloaded ?

 

<<The pile of manure can be outside the green house with a pipe coiled up

inside it and then run into the green house.

 

So, your system is based on hot air then... You'd need a vent or just let it

flow from the pipe into your greenhouse at one point ? From the floor or

accross the ceiling ?

 

<<If you run water through the pipe you will have a manure heater

 

But you get less heat in your greenhouse then you would with hot air, right?

 

<<or you could use a solar heater same thing only you use an insulated black

box with pipe coiled inside and a glass cover over the top the water will be

heated and can be used for showers and or to heat the green house.

 

But that won't work in winter when we need the heating most in the

greenhouse...

 

<<If you need to feed ten people then you must have a green house. Green

houses properly done can produce three times the food you could on a regular

space with half the work. You also have less bugs and disease.....

 

You're sure ? I had a terrible time this summer in the green house. A lot of

damage...

 

<<but because of the climate you will need to place spacers and then add a

second sheet of plastic film to create an air space. That will keep your

inexpensive green house much warmer than a single sheet of plastic.

 

Good.

 

<<You can pry the lid up with a stick if it

gets too hot and cover it with cardboard or Styrofoam when it starts to get

too cold.

 

What about humidity in cold frames ? It shouldn't be too high, right ? At

least if you look at the limited and crowded space and it being so low to

the ground (less aeration) I can imagine problems with mould. I even have

problems in my big greenhouse with crowdy plants developping mold.

 

<<You can get lots more potatoes by planting three sets (plants) in a small

circle and placing a car tire around the three little plants as they get

tall

 

yes, i have been able to follow up these texts on the conference. Thanx for

spending time again...

 

<<The new leaves will quickly turn into

roots when you cover them with straw, sense you only get potatoes from the

rootlets you are giving yourself six more sets of roots than you ever would

have had before.

 

But a consideration: you don't add sand in the tires ? Then how do the

plants root in the tires ? just from the little straw you add ?

 

<<The plastic bag I use is a dry-cleaning bag on a coat hanger,( I have a

friend who gets all her stuff dry-cleaned) I just pull the bag down to about

the floor.

 

About the floor, so you leave space for aeration...

 

<<Yes, it is a special cloth like stuff, it lasts about five years. Lets

sun light in keeps bugs out and acts like a wind break and will hold in some

heat. It will let rain in also. You can leave the fabric

on all the time also. Rabbits don't seem to bother the plants so much also.

 

I haven't seen it around here yet and i'm sure it is not the 'mesh' we used

on the apple trees at Balabhadras either I guess ( at least Gosh was

charging us more :-)

We'll see what we can get a hold of when i'm there...

 

<<We ran it (exhaust) Straight into the green house no pipes.

 

Woo, I wouldn't want to be in your greenhouse... All this is supposed to be

good for the plants ? At least we're advised here not to eat things that are

close to the roads or factories.

 

<<it got down to eighty below zero F at point barrow quite often, cold

enough that if you spit it froze before it hit the ground. I threw out a

cup of boiling water and it froze on the way down but it was 100 degrees

below zero F. The coldest day we ever had.

 

I'm sure it won't get that bad in Iceland...

 

<<All day, sixteen hours. The lamps were grow lamps they have all spectrum

oflight in them regular tube lights white light will not give the plants all

the correct kind of light it must be a GROW LIGHT. If you are in the dark

too long it makes you depressed and tired but is you have a grow light it

won't effect you very much, human bodies need sunlight also but a grow light

may be the next best thing.

 

Good you mentioned, cause I was too stupid to think of that. Maybe it will

also be good to have one in my room for winter. I'm annualy suffering from a

'winter down'. I'm always so happy when the spring vibes arrive...

immediately feel energy flowing again.

 

<<Actually if you just paint wood panels a bright white and place on the

North side of the green house it alone will reflect a lot of light.

 

Good.

 

<< also if you paint a light blue strip about half a meter wide (18") every

five feet on the South side of the green house that helps the plant growth

also. Something to do with blue spectrum of light. It does work I can tell

you that. Why, I do not know!

 

That i never heard of... thanx

 

<<Yes, I grew the plants vertically The plants used the Styrofoam beads to

hold on the roots got the compost tea I fed them by me pouring the tea

mixture into the top of the pipe and caught it in a bucket in the bottom.

 

You do that how many times a day/week ?

 

<<Now I use 4 liter plastic milk bottles and fill it up with manure tea, I

polk a small hole in one corner and hang over the container so it slowly

drips into the pipe. Drip irrigation at it's simplest.

 

Yes, that is lazy intelligence, but it does save time so you concentrate on

other usefull activities. You can get so much more done... not unlike me

whose always wasting so much time due to lack of creativity... good to have

someone like you around.

 

<< Smart man that is a good Idea.

 

Hum... ideas enough, but they hardly ever manifest...

 

<<"Bunny berries" can be placed directly on your crops. (straight from the

rabbit to the tomatoes).

 

You can dry them and crush to have a powder ? Or is that too hard to do ?

Talking of rabbits: you have experience with them. Anything you want to

share or important things to mention ? I'll also have to take care of

them...

 

<<See you are already thinking.

 

Buh... always figuring out how to make money I am... could do more usefull

things with my thinking...

 

dirk

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<<We ran it (exhaust) Straight into the green house no pipes.

 

>Woo, I wouldn't want to be in your greenhouse... All this is supposed to be

>good for the plants ? At least we're advised here not to eat things that

>are close to the roads or factories.

 

If you haven't answered this one yet I am interested to know the answer too.

 

I kept my trailer in a leanto shed for five months, 300 meters from a large

main road. It got covered in grime and was very difficult to clean off. I

had to use an idustrial cleaner. Now I keep it in the country and in the

same five month period, no problem.

 

So would plants growing near permanent Co2 emmisions not get too blackened?

and smothered from breathing properly as well as getting an extra Co2 input?

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> <<We ran it (exhaust) Straight into the green house no pipes.

>

> >Woo, I wouldn't want to be in your greenhouse... All this is supposed to

> >be good for the plants ? At least we're advised here not to eat things

> >that are close to the roads or factories.

>

> If you haven't answered this one yet I am interested to know the answer

> too.

>

> I kept my trailer in a leanto shed for five months, 300 meters from a

> large main road. It got covered in grime and was very difficult to clean

> off. I had to use an idustrial cleaner. Now I keep it in the country and

> in the same five month period, no problem.

>

> So would plants growing near permanent Co2 emmisions not get too

> blackened? and smothered from breathing properly as well as getting an

> extra Co2 input?

 

Yeah, and what about lead?

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