Re compost toilets

[Guest guest]

> Well? Did you get my text?

 

Yes, I received it, but no one here knows about the book you sent. It may

be with Samba, who has not been in this project for 9 months or so.

Plus, without a name for the book, it becomes very hard to locate.

 

Your statements seemed much more geared towards the business you have

developed, and the use of a dry type system.

As I said in my original letter, this will not work properly in our

communities, due to the fact the devotees use so much water for washing,

flushing, etc.

 

PLease give me your comments on this very important point.

thanks.

 

I want to keep up this dialogue until I have a very clear understanding of

the system you propose, and I can understand if/how it can be used here in

Mayapur.

thank you.

I hope you are well and happy.

Your servant,

Gaura Sakti Dasa

 

 

 

The name of the book is THE LOST SCIENCE OF ORGANIC CULTIVATION

It is available from us here in England. cost £12.99 and can be sent over

with someone travelling to Mayapur.

 

>Your statements seemed much more geared towards the business you have

>developed, and the use of a dry type system.

>As I said in my original letter, this will not work properly in our

>communities, due to the fact the devotees use so much water for washing,

>flushing, etc.

 

 

This toilet is specifically designed for Devotees who apply this practice.

It works equally well for devotees and karmis.

 

The reason I say this is that even using the washing practice this toilet is

still considered a dry system. That is because the amount of water employed

is minimal compared to a flushing system which involves a large amount of

water.

 

When I made the original hour long presentation to the SMPDC in London

|Harikesa prabhu did also suggest that he would give me the pipe at the back

of a building that carried a normal sewage flow and ask me to deal with it.

At the time I said no, I could not deal with it.

 

However time changes things and now with given technology I feel this kind

of situation could well be dealt with satisfactorily rediverting the solids

to a composting situation rather than to expensive conventional sewage

treatment.

 

The reason I say this is because I know a company that does this in the UK.

 

They also sell the end product through 170 outlets as a highly sustainable

solution to an age old problem.

 

The reason I prefer any system that does not involve transportaion via water

is because Manu Samhita says it is not recommended. There are many reasons I

have come to understand why this should be so.

The obvious ones are:

1. (drinking) water saving and non pollution of Holy water.

2. Economy

3. Creation of fetiliser

4. Labour created for animals and man.

 

If, as has been discussed at length, the city of Dvaraka had a dry

sanitation system then why not Mayapur? We are hoping for a project that

will last 10,000 years. Therefore maximum sustainability systems should be a

priority. Some major advantages for such a system are:

 

1. No electricity required

2. No moving parts or high tech engineering

3. Natural avoidance of pollution through flooding

 

The amount of liquid collected i.e., washing water and urine is sufficinetly

disposed of through the irrigation necessary in the composting process. I

have developed an automatic irrigation system for the application of this

liquid to compost windrows which is gravity fed. (low tech)

 

The filter system in the different models of toilet are the key to this

system being a practicality.

 

HOWEVER, In order to facilitate the existing buildings there that do have a

water borne system the technology I have discovered can cater for this and

divert the solids to a composting situation. It is, as you may immagine,

much more of a high tech solution than that required by a non water borne

system.

 

I have suggested before that I think Mayapur would benefit from both systems

given the existing extensive developments so far. But I would also suggest

that to continue down the path of a dry management system as far as possible

would be prefereable, in the long term view, offering a less problematic

solution.

 

Here in England I have formed a company which has backers who will be

handling various aspects of the company. They see the potential for third

world countries as enormous and are as keen as I am to see it develop.

 

Either system that we are talking about here would involve the extensive use

of micro-organisms. This is the latest advancement in agricultural

development, again - of a low tech nature. These organisms are naturally

formed under certain circumstances which are created via the simplest of

management techniques. We completed this while staying at the Goshala during

1996-7. In fact the result of the application of this simple technology

reveals that one of the quickest things to disappear in compost is stool due

to its high nitrogen content which is higher when it is raw and untreated

than when it is part treated i.e. by bio-digester and thus the results are

more effective.

 

I am working with the Environment Agency here in England to establish this

practise as a precedent for the future that they will endorse; thus making

the system employable in any country of the world. A small scale trial has

been completed in England and found to be successful. We are currently

working on trials on a large scale.

 

Your servant,

 

Radha Krsna das.