Thermophylic composting of humanure

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Yes, Jenkins method it is the same as Howards method basically. Therefore it

is thermophylic composting, BUT he does not diligently add the variety of

other materials which are available around the house and garden

 

Devotees wash with water therefore in my experience this needs to be

separated. Have you tried the system you talk of?

 

Theory is one thing but experience is another.

 

Seperation is better and more reliable when you are talking large scale.

This is different to a one off small family.

Water content needs to be below 50 per cent at the outset to obtain maximum

nitrogen and by separation one does'nt need to look to see how much saw dust

needs adding all the time - can if you like, but how can you be sure you're

below a 50 per cent water content?? water sinks to the bottom by force of

"gravity?".. If material is kept longer than 90 days nitrogen will be lost.

It all depends on the quality and quantity of the end product you want.

Have you any idea how much urine is passed by beer drinking men? and even

women these days. You propbably don't even want to think about it. Can't say

I blame you, but in my business you have to.

This is why the seperation system of the Satvik Indore Toilet is more

fool-proof. We are talking commercial solution to big big problem. And we

have interest from the British Government.

Extra liquid is required in the later part of the process. If too much

liquid is included at outset disaster can occur. It would over here be

against the Environment Agency's regulations to leave the liquid in at the

outset as run off could occur - making an illegal effluent available to

water courses and the like.

 

My system is not for only a one off family situation it is for an industrial

application if you will. We have a commercial solution for a commercial

problem.

The reason I thought Jenkins system was not thermophylic was because if you

leave stool long enough - covered over it will deteriorate the pathogens

without reaching high temperatures. He does not appear to utilise his

material within 3 months, probably because it is not then ready. I seem to

remember 6 months.

The sum of his compost in this case and also due to his ingredients is

therefore inferior. and maybe only fit for trees and shrubs.

 

Prabhupada wanted us to use this material and grow 'nice fruits and

vegetables and offer it to Krsna.' We are trying to fulfill this wish.

(see Welcome to the Tollygunge compost Factory, Brahma publications)

 

I mean really you can choose whatever you like. You told us about Howard,

now I'm telling you what he said. And I suspect that Srila Prabhupada heard

directly about Howard as articles appeared in the Indian Medical Gazette in

Calcutta around the 1930's and in Calcutta they were doing this process. If

you now prefer Jenkins method it's up to you don't let me discourage you.

I find Howards method much more interesting and versatile in and around the

house and farm and GOSHALA - that's all, and so many devotees are attracted

by his writings which are far more interesting than Jenkins collectively and

he has a whole school of agricultural following that wrote books and

professed it. They even turned the worst farms into the best by his

techniques. In short he has given us a whole scope of agricultural

understanding to go with it. Following his agricultural system it is so much

more all encompassing. In fact as the book denotes Human effluent is only a

small part of the consideration of waste products and he goes into cow

comfort and well-fare and the well-fare of workers and their families, and

protection of the water supply.

And many people may not have access to saw dust.

i.e. here it costs roughly 5 pounds a ton and in India they shouldn't be

cutting trees down anymore. Humus which you make by the Indore method is

free as we did in Mayapur. We didn't cut any trees to get saw dust.