Guest guest Posted December 21, 1999 Report Share Posted December 21, 1999 >If you give your land a rest between re >planting then I suggest chickens! When you let a flock of chickens loose >in >a garden they eat every thing! Bugs seeds weeds and if they have several >weeks in your garden they eat up every thing except the dirt. You escort >them out and replant and then take them back to where they come from. This question still remains unanswered. Is it permissable to do this?? My opinion is that this is an OK deed as the chickens can be given some benefit from this activity, just like we take milk from cows that do not live with devotees, offer it to Krsna, and the cows get some benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 1999 Report Share Posted December 21, 1999 "COM: Radha Krsna (das) ACBSP GB (Great Britain)" wrote: > [Text 2874661 from COM] > > >If you give your land a rest between re > >planting then I suggest chickens! When you let a flock of chickens loose > >in > >a garden they eat every thing! Bugs seeds weeds and if they have several > >weeks in your garden they eat up every thing except the dirt. You escort > >them out and replant and then take them back to where they come from. > > This question still remains unanswered. > > Is it permissable to do this?? > > My opinion is that this is an OK deed as the chickens can be given some > benefit from this activity, just like we take milk from cows that do not > live with devotees, offer it to Krsna, and the cows get some benefit. My friend Harakanta prabhu at Prabhupada village keeps chickens for the purpose of controlling weeds and bugs and eliminating ticks. She keeps only female chickens and no males. She feeds the resulting infertile eggs (since there is no male, there are no fertile eggs) to her dog. (The dog controlls the deer problem.) In return for their gardening assistance, chickens are protected for life and get to hear Harakanta and her children chant Hare Krsna. They also recieve prasadam scraps from time to time. Harakanta also keeps a couple ducks or geese to control slugs and weeds. Similar arrangement. your servant, Hare Krsna dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 > > My opinion is that this is an OK deed as the chickens can be given some > > benefit from this activity, just like we take milk from cows that do not > > live with devotees, offer it to Krsna, and the cows get some benefit. > > My friend Harakanta prabhu at Prabhupada village keeps chickens for the > purpose of controlling weeds and bugs and eliminating ticks. She keeps > only female chickens and no males. She feeds the resulting infertile eggs > (since there is no male, there are no fertile eggs) to her dog. (The dog > controlls the deer problem.) > > In return for their gardening assistance, chickens are protected for life > and get to hear Harakanta and her children chant Hare Krsna. They also > recieve prasadam scraps from time to time. > > Harakanta also keeps a couple ducks or geese to control slugs and weeds. > Similar arrangement. Wow great, how much land do they have. This sounds like the solution from heaven. It's exactly along the lines I planned. About how many chickens and ducks would it take to keep a two acre pot snail and slug controlled? Any idea?. I do plan to keep a rooster, as I love the morning call, but I guess they might be hard to keep apart. Anyone have any experience? YS Samba das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 > > > Harakanta also keeps a couple ducks or geese to control slugs and weeds. > Similar arrangement. If someone is going to get chickens and ducks for these purposes, shop around a little at first and consider getting some of the more exotic varieties. The commonly available ones are bred mostly for meat, and the exotic ones can be much prettier to look at. Nicer feathers to work with if you do crafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 Please accept my humble obeisances. > I do plan to keep a rooster, as I love the morning call, but I guess they > might be hard to keep apart. Anyone have any experience? Rooster may most likely mean chicken, chicken means that one rooster may become 7 roosters in a very short time, which will also be multiplying themselves very fast. Then you really have to love the morning call in order to not become annoyed. Also it seems like when you have more than one rooster they start morningcall-competition-teams practising all day. Dont know about ways of keeping them apart, except of course constant caging which I find depressing to look at. Also when there is no rooster you can use the egg for dogs and cats without killing. Anyway thats my experience. Ys. Gunamani d.d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 1999 Report Share Posted December 23, 1999 > (The dog controlls > the deer problem.) How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 1999 Report Share Posted December 23, 1999 "COM: Trayimaya (das) HKS (Aarhus - DK)" wrote: > [Text 2880282 from COM] > > > (The dog controlls > > the deer problem.) > > How? Dogs bark and chase deer. One of the most important things that they do is simply to pee. When the deer smell the dog urine, they feel unsafe. I think a similar product is sold in farm/garden supply stores for people who don't keep dogs. Satyabhama prabhu told a story of some bhakta who departed from Gita-nagari Farm leaving behind a pair of daschounds (German devotees -- please help me with spelling!) -- very short, long dogs. They would not have been able to catch any animal, especially a deer. But the devotees made a dog house for them in the middle of the five-acre garden. At night they were chained to their dog house. In the fall, the bhakta came and picked them up. But for that summer, Gita-nagari had the least deer problem it had ever had. your servant, Hare Krsna dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 1999 Report Share Posted December 24, 1999 > > But the devotees made a dog house for them in the middle of the > five-acre garden. At night they were chained to their dog house. In > the fall, the bhakta came and picked them up. But for that summer, > Gita-nagari had the least deer problem it had ever had. > > your servant, > > Hare Krsna dasi It depends a lot on how heavy is the deer pressure. With light pressure (low population), some things work, that won't work in heavy pressure. Chained dogs don't work in New Vrindaban where the deer are present in extremely high numbers. Even it varies. At our house, we can plant out flowers outside the deer fence that aren't bothered, but at another house only 2 miles away, the deer eat the same plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 1999 Report Share Posted December 24, 1999 > > > > (The dog controlls > > > the deer problem.) > > > > How? > > Dogs bark and chase deer. One of the most important things that they do > is simply to pee. When the deer smell the dog urine, they feel unsafe. I > think a similar product is sold in farm/garden supply stores for people > who don't keep dogs. > > Satyabhama prabhu told a story of some bhakta who departed from > Gita-nagari Farm leaving behind a pair of daschounds (German devotees -- > please help me with spelling!) -- very short, long dogs. They would not > have been able to catch any animal, especially a deer. > > But the devotees made a dog house for them in the middle of the > five-acre garden. At night they were chained to their dog house. In the > fall, the bhakta came and picked them up. But for that summer, > Gita-nagari had the least deer problem it had ever had. > > your servant, > > Hare Krsna dasi What is the deer problem then? By the way interesting stuff with the smell-thing, maybe that would be something to investigate in regards to other vermins. I believe butterflies have a rather sensitive nose too. Merry Christmas and Hare Krishna ys Trayimaya dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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