Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 , "gral_im_tee" <Jordan wrote: > > Hi yosy, > > you wrote: > > a small correction: the heart (the one > > on the right, as beloved ramana points) is > > indicated by "daat", the eleventh, hidden > > sefirah... > > > > tifereth, the solar plexus, is the egoic > > center, the center of illusory persona. > > > > As the divine name of the sefira tifereth is > "Yhvh Eloah ve-Daath" ("Lord God of Knowledge") the name of the sephira, tifereth, means splendour. and like the keter is in malkut, and malkut in keter, so is the 'sod' in 'pshat' and 'pshat' in the sod... so keep it simple. (for those unfamiliar with the words: keter=crown; malkut=kingdom; pshat=simple; sod=secret; all those are technical terms well known to the sudents of the cabalic intelectualizations) > you see that there is a secret side to it: lol the secret is one, and cannot be revealed - it is the direct and unmediated experience. without it those are all elaborate intelectual speculations. knowledge is wordless and renders all words and most sublime concepts superfluous. the taste of chocolate is a secret for one who never tasted it. > But Daath as a sefira itself is the "Dark One" > and lies in the Abyss.... if by abyss you mean the 'eyn', then the apparently nonexistent daat(=consciousness; though superficially translated usually as 'knowledge') denotes its location as the centre of awareness. Huh! we almost > enter buddhist grounds here and stand before > a mystery again: > > Is the self empty ? > Is Emptiness the self ? > > Is the sun dark ? > Or Darkness light ? > > u know dark sun from splendor solis ? > > -> http://levity.com/alchemy/ss19.html hahahaha tempted to look at the site on account of "levity", i was surprised to see it takes itself seriously... one of the basic postulates of cabala states that the divine all pervading light, having nothing to oppose it, is darkness. > > Hey, where are my sunglasses ? > > Anyway, as a jnani Ramana may have liked > the daath explanation of Hridayam ... > as daath means "knowledge"...:-) > > Cheers > > Martin > have fun yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hi ... Light is only 'seen' when reflected.. So called empty space is full of light rays seen only on by 'eyes'... Makes me wonder what other 'animals' see in the night sky.. I had some time to pass in NYC once long ago while waiting for a bus. I wandered into a shop full of stuff and was strolling around. The owner asked if he could help me and I said I was just looking. His NYC response was: 'Just looking?! F*ck you!'. 'Here's looking at you kid' H. Bogart Cheers, Sam - yosyx Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:12 AM Re: sungazing on the last day /yosy/martin , "gral_im_tee" <Jordan wrote: > > Hi yosy, > > you wrote: > > a small correction: the heart (the one > > on the right, as beloved ramana points) is > > indicated by "daat", the eleventh, hidden > > sefirah... > > > > tifereth, the solar plexus, is the egoic > > center, the center of illusory persona. > > > > As the divine name of the sefira tifereth is > "Yhvh Eloah ve-Daath" ("Lord God of Knowledge") the name of the sephira, tifereth, means splendour. and like the keter is in malkut, and malkut in keter, so is the 'sod' in 'pshat' and 'pshat' in the sod... so keep it simple. (for those unfamiliar with the words: keter=crown; malkut=kingdom; pshat=simple; sod=secret; all those are technical terms well known to the sudents of the cabalic intelectualizations) > you see that there is a secret side to it: lol the secret is one, and cannot be revealed - it is the direct and unmediated experience. without it those are all elaborate intelectual speculations. knowledge is wordless and renders all words and most sublime concepts superfluous. the taste of chocolate is a secret for one who never tasted it. > But Daath as a sefira itself is the "Dark One" > and lies in the Abyss.... if by abyss you mean the 'eyn', then the apparently nonexistent daat(=consciousness; though superficially translated usually as 'knowledge') denotes its location as the centre of awareness. Huh! we almost > enter buddhist grounds here and stand before > a mystery again: > > Is the self empty ? > Is Emptiness the self ? > > Is the sun dark ? > Or Darkness light ? > > u know dark sun from splendor solis ? > > -> http://levity.com/alchemy/ss19.html hahahaha tempted to look at the site on account of "levity", i was surprised to see it takes itself seriously... one of the basic postulates of cabala states that the divine all pervading light, having nothing to oppose it, is darkness. > > Hey, where are my sunglasses ? > > Anyway, as a jnani Ramana may have liked > the daath explanation of Hridayam ... > as daath means "knowledge"...:-) > > Cheers > > Martin > have fun yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 thank you, "a picture is worth a thousand words" sam... _()_ yosy , Sampas <S.Pasiencier wrote: > > Hi ... > > Light is only 'seen' when reflected.. > > So called empty space is full of light rays seen only on by 'eyes'... > > Makes me wonder what other 'animals' see in the night sky.. > > I had some time to pass in NYC once long ago while waiting for a bus. > > I wandered into a shop full of stuff and was strolling around. The owner asked if he could help me and I said I was just looking. > > His NYC response was: 'Just looking?! F*ck you!'. > > 'Here's looking at you kid' H. Bogart > > Cheers, Sam > > > - > yosyx > > Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:12 AM > Re: sungazing on the last day /yosy/martin > > > , "gral_im_tee" <Jordan@> > wrote: > > > > Hi yosy, > > > > you wrote: > > > a small correction: the heart (the one > > > on the right, as beloved ramana points) is > > > indicated by "daat", the eleventh, hidden > > > sefirah... > > > > > > tifereth, the solar plexus, is the egoic > > > center, the center of illusory persona. > > > > > > > As the divine name of the sefira tifereth is > > "Yhvh Eloah ve-Daath" ("Lord God of Knowledge") > > > the name of the sephira, tifereth, means splendour. > > and like the keter is in malkut, and malkut in > keter, so is the 'sod' in 'pshat' and 'pshat' in > the sod... so keep it simple. > > (for those unfamiliar with the words: keter=crown; > malkut=kingdom; pshat=simple; sod=secret; all those > are technical terms well known to the sudents of the > cabalic intelectualizations) > > > > you see that there is a secret side to it: > > > lol > > the secret is one, and cannot be revealed - > it is the direct and unmediated experience. > without it those are all elaborate intelectual > speculations. knowledge is wordless and renders > all words and most sublime concepts superfluous. > > the taste of chocolate is a secret for one who > never tasted it. > > > > But Daath as a sefira itself is the "Dark One" > > and lies in the Abyss.... > > > > if by abyss you mean the 'eyn', then the apparently > nonexistent daat(=consciousness; though superficially > translated usually as 'knowledge') denotes its location > as the centre of awareness. > > > > > Huh! we almost > > enter buddhist grounds here and stand before > > a mystery again: > > > > Is the self empty ? > > Is Emptiness the self ? > > > > Is the sun dark ? > > Or Darkness light ? > > > > u know dark sun from splendor solis ? > > > > -> http://levity.com/alchemy/ss19.html > > > hahahaha tempted to look at the site on account of > "levity", i was surprised to see it takes itself > seriously... > > one of the basic postulates of cabala states that > the divine all pervading light, having nothing to > oppose it, is darkness. > > > > > > Hey, where are my sunglasses ? > > > > Anyway, as a jnani Ramana may have liked > > the daath explanation of Hridayam ... > > as daath means "knowledge"...:-) > > > > Cheers > > > > Martin > > > > > have fun > > yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hey yosy, yeah, lets drop the ol' concepts even if they seem to be the oldest ones under the sun - did they wait for our brains to be chewed and chewed again ? -Nah! Waiting ? Lets wait no longer for the world to be like our thoughts want it to be! a book can fly like a swallow in the sky if you're strong and tough and throw it hard enough Cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 yea yosy..that's why I only read comic books... wink wink... sam - yosyx Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:46 AM Re: sungazing on the last day /yosy/martin thank you, "a picture is worth a thousand words" sam... _()_ yosy , Sampas <S.Pasiencier wrote: > > Hi ... > > Light is only 'seen' when reflected.. > > So called empty space is full of light rays seen only on by 'eyes'... > > Makes me wonder what other 'animals' see in the night sky.. > > I had some time to pass in NYC once long ago while waiting for a bus. > > I wandered into a shop full of stuff and was strolling around. The owner asked if he could help me and I said I was just looking. > > His NYC response was: 'Just looking?! F*ck you!'. > > 'Here's looking at you kid' H. Bogart > > Cheers, Sam > > > - > yosyx > > Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:12 AM > Re: sungazing on the last day /yosy/martin > > > , "gral_im_tee" <Jordan@> > wrote: > > > > Hi yosy, > > > > you wrote: > > > a small correction: the heart (the one > > > on the right, as beloved ramana points) is > > > indicated by "daat", the eleventh, hidden > > > sefirah... > > > > > > tifereth, the solar plexus, is the egoic > > > center, the center of illusory persona. > > > > > > > As the divine name of the sefira tifereth is > > "Yhvh Eloah ve-Daath" ("Lord God of Knowledge") > > > the name of the sephira, tifereth, means splendour. > > and like the keter is in malkut, and malkut in > keter, so is the 'sod' in 'pshat' and 'pshat' in > the sod... so keep it simple. > > (for those unfamiliar with the words: keter=crown; > malkut=kingdom; pshat=simple; sod=secret; all those > are technical terms well known to the sudents of the > cabalic intelectualizations) > > > > you see that there is a secret side to it: > > > lol > > the secret is one, and cannot be revealed - > it is the direct and unmediated experience. > without it those are all elaborate intelectual > speculations. knowledge is wordless and renders > all words and most sublime concepts superfluous. > > the taste of chocolate is a secret for one who > never tasted it. > > > > But Daath as a sefira itself is the "Dark One" > > and lies in the Abyss.... > > > > if by abyss you mean the 'eyn', then the apparently > nonexistent daat(=consciousness; though superficially > translated usually as 'knowledge') denotes its location > as the centre of awareness. > > > > > Huh! we almost > > enter buddhist grounds here and stand before > > a mystery again: > > > > Is the self empty ? > > Is Emptiness the self ? > > > > Is the sun dark ? > > Or Darkness light ? > > > > u know dark sun from splendor solis ? > > > > -> http://levity.com/alchemy/ss19.html > > > hahahaha tempted to look at the site on account of > "levity", i was surprised to see it takes itself > seriously... > > one of the basic postulates of cabala states that > the divine all pervading light, having nothing to > oppose it, is darkness. > > > > > > Hey, where are my sunglasses ? > > > > Anyway, as a jnani Ramana may have liked > > the daath explanation of Hridayam ... > > as daath means "knowledge"...:-) > > > > Cheers > > > > Martin > > > > > have fun > > yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 , "gral_im_tee" <Jordan wrote: > > Hey yosy, > > yeah, lets drop the ol' concepts > even if they seem to be the oldest ones under the sun - > did they wait for our brains to be chewed and chewed again ? > -Nah! > Waiting ? > Lets wait no longer for the world > to be like our thoughts want it to be! > > a book can fly > like a swallow in the sky > if you're strong and tough > and throw it hard enough hahahahahaha sure, my friend... In god's infinite mercy The holy book of books Is being written Always So That the blind Can read it The deaf Can hear it And it's scent Can pervade The anosmic's Being It is hidden Yet revealed In the silence Of the dervish's emptied heart It is Water upon water It is Love Becoming Forget your books, ya Yosy, Stick with me, And dance! > > Cheers > > Martin > BOOM!!! cheers, yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 hello sam, Yes! one should have no preoccupations about comic strips: "Bhagawan Sri Ramana Maharshi was reading comic strips when U.G. first saw him. At the very first glimpse of him U.G. thought, 'How can this man help me?' As he sat there for two hours, watching the Bhagawan cut vegetables and play with this, that or the other, he wasn't at all surprised to find that all those fancy assertions to the effect that this man's look changed you and that all questions disappeared in his presence, remained fables." http://www.well.com/~jct/ugbio/ugbio2.htm this U.G. guy seemd to have many preoccupations, but who am i to judge ... Cheers Martin , Sampas <S.Pasiencier wrote: > > yea yosy..that's why I only read comic books... > > wink wink... sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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